I'd like to know if there will ever be skill based matchmaking in apex legends ?If i didn't have to solo queue against 3x double preds/ masters that would be great!I would even enjoy NOT getting pounded by a wraith or octane with 50000 kills.Like if we could maybe find a way to put ppl with similar ranks into the same lobby that would be really good!I wouldn't mind fighting 4k 20bomb ppl if i ever hat the chance to grind for them...If i play a low pick rate/trash character i have 200 kills on why the hell am i matched with * xXx_TTV_zoomergod_ with 60000 kills on wraith because its his * job to play the game?If you put streamers and youtubers into low skill lobbies why can't you give them AI controlled enemies so they can upload their 20 bomb every day and we can have a nice time fighting normal ppl?I play the game when i have free time i like to grind for the stuff but the last time i really had fun in apex was a long time ago....maybe never!

I have gone from frighteningly bad when I started S8 to absolutely average now in S13 and two things have been consistently bad in Apex...the horrible matchmaking and bad audio.What makes the matchmaking so wonky is the 1 in 20 game when it feels like you are playing normal humans beings on the other side. Otherwise, you feel like you are up against lobbies full of cheaters, smurfs, and godlike players.I don't think anyone at Respawn cares or even listens to all the complaints about SBMM. Nothing will ever be done about it so I just quit and go do something else whenever it is really bad.

Agreed^ they don’t care at all, they use casuals to please those pro players in hopes that they buy skins. A dedicated pro team is bound to buy skins much more frequently than your average player so of course they are going to please the pro players at the causal players expense. Just how apex & EA works, best thing to do honestly is just either stop playing the game or dea with it and don’t support EA in the process

@Awhoo_Thunder Yes, I agree. But you have to get a chance to notice what went wrong. That way you can analyze what just happened.But most the time it's like that.you fall over dead in splitseconds not having a clue what exactly hit you.Kill cam could help. But there is no kill cam.You just get to se the banner of you henchman.Ah, 4k ,20 bomb. Now I learn .... what exactly ?

The game is just not fun for the average player. Going up against Predators and Masters all the time just sucks. No wonder players are leaving the game. Used to be a fun game but without a real skill based system it sucks.

This game is made for teams only and streamers not for us pub players. Just did 12 games and the teams I get are just terrible over and over. It seems to me every time you win a game you will have to at least get this amount of crap teams before you give up. It's deliberate to keep you playing and searching for that win so you get that "additive feeling of winning".Also the more you play the more likely you are to spend money on skins. This is all that matters to them not how you feel about matchmaking. They will never change it no matter how crap it is. It is setup for the purpose of keeping you hooked in and spending EDIT: in the 17 or 18 games I played one person dropped 1000 damage. Maybe I should buy APEX coins lol

Are there any plans to make skill based matchmaking a thing?

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HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
I have gone from frighteningly bad when I started S8 to absolutely average now in S13 and two things have been consistently bad in Apex...the horrible matchmaking and bad audio.
What makes the matchmaking so wonky is the 1 in 20 game when it feels like you are playing normal humans beings on the other side. Otherwise, you feel like you are up against lobbies full of cheaters, smurfs, and godlike players.
I don't think anyone at Respawn cares or even listens to all the complaints about SBMM. Nothing will ever be done about it so I just quit and go do something else whenever it is really bad.
KoolKid730
4 years ago
Agreed^ they don’t care at all, they use casuals to please those pro players in hopes that they buy skins. A dedicated pro team is bound to buy skins much more frequently than your average player so of course they are going to please the pro players at the causal players expense. Just how apex & EA works, best thing to do honestly is just either stop playing the game or dea with it and don’t support EA in the process
Awhoo_Thunder
4 years ago
You get better only by playing with better players... 🙂
Midnight9746
Hero+
4 years ago
@Mortal-san Any chance we can get better servers? Because my ping is an average of 30-60 and the game is acting like its 1k+. no regs, players teleporting, lag, rubberband, etc. basically it looks like people's connections, but its the terrible 20hz servers.

We're not getting better servers because EA/Respawn says there's "nothing wrong with them", so to answer the question... no. There's zero plans for better matchmaking. The devs even said themselves that the matchmaking was "working as intended".
Lil_Noicyy
4 years ago
Sry to inform you but there is already skill based matchmaking in Apex. It just so happens it sucks big time! it is horrible, and will probable never ever get fixed.
Death_By_Ring
4 years ago
The 1-in-20 is EOMM at play. It's making sure you don't quit by giving you a hard carry stack and/or making you play against lower elo players for one match. Variable reinforcement schedule for player retainment. They know your MMR, but intentionally wildcard match for most matches for some reason they won't tell us.
The other issue is they try to "Bring up" and "bring down" MMR with law-of-averages rather than enforcing putting people of a similar MMR together. It might be done for time constraint purposes, but either way, it's intentional to have it be allowed rather than force waiting for an actual same-elo-only stack and match.
If they're sincere, they can add another checkbox saying "prefer matching MMR only" for people who don't mind waiting longer.
Apyhs
4 years ago
@Awhoo_Thunder Yes, I agree. But you have to get a chance to notice what went wrong. That way you can analyze what just happened.

But most the time it's like that.

you fall over dead in splitseconds not having a clue what exactly hit you.

Kill cam could help. But there is no kill cam.
You just get to se the banner of you henchman.

Ah, 4k ,20 bomb. Now I learn .... what exactly ?
Mortal-san
4 years ago
@Awhoo_Thunder "with" ...not against try learning a game against a professional who doesn't want to lose.
Mortal-san
4 years ago
@Lil_Noicyy its not sbmm but eomm (engagement optimized mm) they don't put you into lobbys based on your skill but rather into lobbys that make you play longer/spend more cash (based on their data). So i wouldn't call it SKILL based.
Manchu9499
4 years ago
The game is just not fun for the average player. Going up against Predators and Masters all the time just sucks. No wonder players are leaving the game. Used to be a fun game but without a real skill based system it sucks.