7 years ago

Armor/Shields are Frustrating in Apex

Hi hello,

Coming from console gamer perspective, armor in the is game is nice and awful.

Let me start by adding that this game is awesome and very entertaining. It’s the Battle Royale we didn’t know we needed.

Right, the armor is this game is a benefit, yet makes gunfights frustrating and inconsistent. Frustrating because, whether using a light or some heavy ammo weapons, putting almost a whole clip (or 2) into purple/gold armor and not breaking is crazy stupid.

Even a barrel stuff from a Peacekeeper/Mastif inconsistently does not break armor (I’ve shot my opponent 3x with a Mastif from 2 yards away... armor did not break until the 3 shot and I died first with 4/4 charged of my purple armor on).

On top of the frustration, even during gunfights people will hide for 8 seconds, then it’s repaired and repeat.

Sure, I may whiff a few bullets, but when hitting my target and see floating numbers of yellow/white that also should’ve added up more or less to a kill and doesn’t, makes it’s so frustrating.

The white/blue armor is fair and acceptable.

Plus, channels talk about buffing weapons to hit harder. There’s no need to because it’s the armor itself that makes it frustrating.

Here are some ideas to nerf or help armor not be frustrating:

- Make purple/gold armor much longer to repair/recharge from 10s to 20s

- Lessen the amount it takes to break purple/gold armor to about 12-14 shots of light ammo weapons & 10-11 for heavy ammo.

- Make the hit box just a little bigger for headshot to compensate against body shot to a purple/gold armor.

I support and look forward to the future development of this Apex: Legends

gameplay discussion

14 Replies

Prupisek
7 years ago
It works for you as well so use it. If you let enemy hide and repair shields then problem isn't in shields but in you not giving him chance.
trsorhaug
7 years ago
The problem now with the purple/gold armour, is that it doesn't work as it should. After three to five shots you're knocked when using the purple/gold armour.
Recently I start to ask if there are some limits when you have reached some kind of level, that makes you more weak than the rest, no matter what armour you're using. Even when using both helmet and body armour, I have been knocked after two shots with grey, two shots with blue, and three to five shots when wearing purple/gold.
Also when using the knock down shield I have find it very strange that I still is knocked when using the grey knocked down shield and the enemies are destroying it. When I use the blue/purple/gold, I die right after the knock down shield is destroyed. So, are there some benefits for the newbie players? Are there bots in this game that makes this happens? Or is it something else that makes it?
Avenger0314
7 years ago
You are missing the point.
The extra 25 is for situations in which you take a lot of damage but survive with 10HP left. It for when you go aggressive taking a lot of damage having more confident you can get the enemy first as soon as you are hitting your shots. Breaking armour with 3 hits with the masstif is an aiming issue as it can be broken with just one and same goes for peacekeeper. You can never empty two mags in someone with out them knocked or eliminated but if you are not landing your shots on target then 10 clips might not be enough. It's an aiming issue not armour just try to improve your aim.
TheJumpingJawa
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
Either this is a hit registration issue, or a user aim issue.
FYI Mastiff headshot, even with lvl3 helmet, can one shot a 100/100 opponent.
Through artificial testing I've noticed Apex handles packet loss very poorly; are you by any chance playing over a WiFi connection?
Reapergrim12345
6 years ago
Valid points but tbh my problem is I get lvl 3/4 armor an helmets an yet people can one tap your armor now my lvl 4 armor that I just found yeah gets one tapped by people sometimes anyone else have this problem getting armor getting into a gunfight only to get hit once an suddenly your armorless like wth
glichcannon
6 years ago
You are absolutely correct. I can take a lmg with a lvl 3 mag, engage first, have them run around panicking, then have them engage me and drop me in a couple of shots. Two shots in a close range predicament from a longbow should break any shield no matter what. I feel like armour is way too exaggerated. If I have a lvl 1 shield and my opponent has a level three, and if I engage first with precise shots, I'm still more than likely to lose that "gun fight", it seems like it's more of a fight between shields than weapons. I had a gold shield run straight to me while I was shooting and hitting with heavy ammo, just for her to get to me and drop me before I could even swap weapons. I should never die first if I'm engaging first with multiple shots before you can get one out, whether your shot connects or not.
expl0z1v
6 years ago
Gold shield is OP. Why on earth would a gold shield ALSO need faster healing?
I mean, if ur a white shield fighting an gold shield, unless u have beast aim, ur doomed.
Honestly a white armor should heal faster than a gold shield!! At least u have a shot than..
Would also make more sense, less shield faster healing.
Liqui-Hide88
6 years ago
STOP CRYING GUYS ... THE ARMOR IS ALREADY FINE WE DONT NEED TO FIX IT ... RESPAWN SHOULD FIX OTHER ISSUES LIKE BUGS AND HACKERS IN GAME THATS ALL ...
Babbediboopi
6 years ago
@EvBattle
I think you got the damage per bullet calculations wrong. You will break a purple armor with 9 body hits with a R99 (109 dmg) and only 5 shots with a Flatline for instance.... Use stacking damage numbers in option if you are unsure how much dmg you actually make during a spray.

People tend to overestimate their combat effectiveness when they have a purple armor, and underestimate it when having a white. Sure, its not wise to go full on frontal ADS-battle against a purple if you have white, but as long as you get the first few shots on him without him able to react, then its fair game. The difference between a white and a purple/gold armor is literally 2.5 body shots with a flatline, 4.2 body shots with an R99, 3.6 with an R301, 1.1 with the Wingman and just one body shot with a Longbow.
His biggest advantage then is IF you let him heal up. And its your choice if you let them heal up for 8 seconds. Whenever you break an armor, you just gained an advantage and its your choice if you want this advantage to be either one less shield battery for him, or a potential knock if you choose to push, which ofc is an even greater advantage.
glichcannon
6 years ago
It takes at least two shots to break a purple shield with a longbow.