Can we please have better outlines for allies and enemies? For me, and I'm sure for many others, I actually have a hard time discerning enemies from the environment and even ally players. Call it a skill issue but sometimes I genuinely just can't see enemies for the life of me. I play Overwatch too, and the way allies and enemies are outlined is much better. I'm not asking for enemies to be outlined/highlighted from a mile away by any means, I just would really like it if it was easier to see an enemy in front of certain terrains at certain distances. I would suggest this as a new accessibility feature, and be able to pick colors and adjust opacity for outlines like Overwatch.

I would like for no outlines at all. At any distance.I am one that has trouble seeing a two pixel legend at range, but it is part of the skill gap that I want in the game.I only wish rEAspawn had made it where all legends' skins would contrast against the environment like Halo used to do religiously. But the cat is out of the bag now and there is no going back.

@MrGreenWithAGun Agreed, it has no business in a comp BR game PvP.

@Xcaptain1marvelX I think they should remove outlines, health bars and/ or spotting myself. Battle Royale shouldn't be easy. Dumb it down enough, it just becomes another deathmatch mode.Being hard is why BR became so popular. People had to actually use their head, and not rely on on-screen effects so much. Deathmatch nowadays is so casual, people use it for leveling.Practice should be what players need, not more ingame helpers.

@Xcaptain1marvelX My honest opinion, get a better monitor (not being sarcastic, just honest). My bad if you didn't reply me, couldn't tell, as it didn't show.At no point should a game trying to convey to its community as being competitive, should cater to accessibility and/ or contain on-screen helpers. The issue isn't the game, the issue is your personal setup.If you add something, you also have to take it away. So if you get more contrast between characters and their surroundings, you lose stealth in the process. Do you like this return? Because I don't.So when companies try to add, I don't look at it like a feature, But what is the opposite thing I lost.Watching Apex Legends now compared to 2019 is like watching Jurassic Park 5 (or whatever they have it up to). It just doesn't make any sense.

@Popa2caps For me BR has far more depth than death match. I went from Halo to Apex and I can’t go back. Arena games are so shallow compared to Apex BR they are now just a boring lap around the track… literally… around the track… over and over again.Revival is a step back to arena mechanics and is why it must go. Forcing the player to fight or go for their teammates’ banner was such a deep decision moment that I truly miss.

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MrGreenWithAGun
New Ace
12 months ago
I would like for no outlines at all. At any distance.
I am one that has trouble seeing a two pixel legend at range, but it is part of the skill gap that I want in the game.
I only wish rEAspawn had made it where all legends' skins would contrast against the environment like Halo used to do religiously. But the cat is out of the bag now and there is no going back.
ComicBookGuy2727
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
@MrGreenWithAGun Agreed, it has no business in a comp BR game PvP.
Anonymous
12 months ago
@Xcaptain1marvelX

I think they should remove outlines, health bars and/ or spotting myself. Battle Royale shouldn't be easy. Dumb it down enough, it just becomes another deathmatch mode.
Being hard is why BR became so popular. People had to actually use their head, and not rely on on-screen effects so much. Deathmatch nowadays is so casual, people use it for leveling.

Practice should be what players need, not more ingame helpers.
Xcaptain1marvel
12 months ago
Brother I literally can't see players half the time
Xcaptain1marvel
12 months ago
That's what I'm trying to say I need more contrast
Anonymous
12 months ago
@Xcaptain1marvelX

My honest opinion, get a better monitor (not being sarcastic, just honest). My bad if you didn't reply me, couldn't tell, as it didn't show.

At no point should a game trying to convey to its community as being competitive, should cater to accessibility and/ or contain on-screen helpers. The issue isn't the game, the issue is your personal setup.

If you add something, you also have to take it away. So if you get more contrast between characters and their surroundings, you lose stealth in the process. Do you like this return? Because I don't.

So when companies try to add, I don't look at it like a feature, But what is the opposite thing I lost.

Watching Apex Legends now compared to 2019 is like watching Jurassic Park 5 (or whatever they have it up to). It just doesn't make any sense.
MrGreenWithAGun
New Ace
12 months ago
@Popa2caps
For me BR has far more depth than death match. I went from Halo to Apex and I can’t go back. Arena games are so shallow compared to Apex BR they are now just a boring lap around the track… literally… around the track… over and over again.
Revival is a step back to arena mechanics and is why it must go. Forcing the player to fight or go for their teammates’ banner was such a deep decision moment that I truly miss.
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
@MrGreenWithAGun

'For me BR has far more depth than death match. I went from Halo to Apex and I can’t go back. Arena games are so shallow compared to Apex BR they are now just a boring lap around the track… literally… around the track… over and over again."

I know we've talked about this before, but I had to call it out again for a thumbs up. I'd give it more if I could. I miss Halo as a universe, and I definitely miss forging, but I will never miss eight players on two teams in a small venue and a twelve minute timer to erase the enemy as many times as possible. How did I ever think that was fun???
Nightstick24
12 months ago
@Popa2caps The problem is my eyeballs, actually, not my setup. My eyes suck. This change helps me play Apex, a game I love, a little more. We're not talking highlighting through smoke, through walls, x-ray vision, we're talking a highlight when you're looking almost directly at a person in line-of-sight. It's something that a normal person should, and in 99% of cases would, already see, and now it's got a small red outline so I can see it some of the time too.

There's already bloodhound for scans, crypto for scans, Seer for scans, Valk for scans, every survey beacon on the map active for scans, and Vantage already had highlighting - and all recon legends get ADS highlighting now too. It's not like this is a new feature, it's just now available for everyone, only at close range, in a much more limited capacity. And it applies for everyone, so it's not an 'advantage' to anyone competitively.

Accessibility is a good thing.
Anonymous
12 months ago
@MrGreenWithAGun

That's kinda my point. Halo nowadays is lacking because the game type became boring because it was dumbed down with all the (so-called) accessibility features.
Halo when it first went online had proximity chat (so talking ingame to both teams), friendly fire, not many on-screen helpers.

Now though, Halo Infinite is an accessibility nightmare. A cat could play it, if it accidentally hit the trigger once in a while. Jokes aside, it's dumbed down to the point where no one wants to play it, because the skill ceiling is so low, it doesn't feel rewarding.

A. Outlines of characters with the ability to change the color directly in the settings. So when you do get a kill, you think less of it because of the outline feature.

B. Aim assistance, with something known as trajectory bullet magnetism (shots will curve into opponents). This shouldn't have even been considered in modern video games.

C. Long range scopes have light effects to let the players know someone is aiming at them.

So this is what it means by making something into Halo in my eyes. You lower the players ability by giving them too many on-screen helpers, you lower the entire gaming experience for the community, then people move on and don't return.

Apex Legends is in this subtle change phase. If this gets accepted, expect more like it, just like Halo. I do bet that streamers will get these causal features disabled completely for ranked games. None of them make sense in a competitive environment.