Control LTM Feedback Megathread

There should be punishment for quitters. I see so many quitters when they are on the losing side, and its no fun for both parties. They should be banned from control mode for 10mins or something.

@TheApexLegendNubI don't play much Arena either. But you can suicide with nades if you really want in Arena but you can't do that in Control. And one Arena match is a quicker than Control I would think. One player leaving in Control would ruin 8 other, but Arena is just 2. Ideally no one would leave, but I'd choose to put penalty on Control instead of Arena.

And it doesn't really make sense to have a surrender system when people can just leave at will as the current state. If people always connect to the same game, maybe that can work. And maybe just leave it to the report system when it comes to afk people.

It would be nice if people would not die instantly after being knocked down and teammates could revive them. Right now lifeline and giblartar is useless. You could lower time for knocked down players so they would have to be revived faster and add possibility to do not wait for revive and just respawn.

New to Apex Legends, but veteran of older FPS games.

I saw Control as a way to get into Apex for the 'first time' since my few previous experiences didn't afford me a good learning experience.  The bar to getting into Apex Legends, learning the weapons, load outs and playstyle was a lot higher than I anticipated as I was used to more TDM/CTF type games where you spawn, shoot, die and repeat on a fast cycle.  The base game requires a lot of time investment just to get into combat once or twice.

I have been able to jump in and get a 15-20 games of Control in, and am glad there is a place to provide feedback from a very new player.  This is the type of game mode I had been waiting for to get reps with the various weapons and legends in game, not on the firing range.

Pros:

1. Easy to jump in and play.  Being able to go from loading screen to playing the game in a matter of minutes is great.  Being able to loop games back to back with minimal downtime is also great.  Even the respawn timer isn't punishing and too long.
2. Easy to try out different weapons and legends.  I appreciate that I can swap weapons and legends mid-game.  I also appreciate that the weapon kits can change from time to time, and that there are a lot of different weapons available on the ground or in drops.

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1. Score Effects.  Most games appear to be decided within the first few minutes.  The early losing side tended to lose players (DC? Quit? doesn't matter) which then compounds the issue a lot of times.  I had maybe 2-3 games where the final score was within 100 points of each other, and only one where the lead changed within the last 10%.  Most games were blowouts.
2. Player skill balance.  I acknowledge this is a hard thing to address without some form of skill rating system applied.  Watching preset 3 mans walk through random noobs like myself, pushing teams back to spawn, it is disheartening.  While I care more about learning the game itself, it sucks when the game ends within a few minutes as a skilled group 3 caps and holds a lesser team to spawn.
3. Weapon Drop balance and timing.  Facing double and triple Kraber in the midgame was savage.  I get that the Kraber and other drop pod weapons should help turn the tide of the battle.  However, it felt like this was pushing the imbalances between teams further more often then equalizing the endgame.
4. Spawn Points in the middle of nowhere.  When I select B and spawn just in front of A/C, or I choose A/C and spawn just in front of the starting point.....ugh.  Even spawning in the starting point, and having to run 10 seconds to the boost pad (is that the name? the thing that gets you flying for a bit, not Octanes jump pads) feels like I am wasting time running around.
5. Spawn points that are out in the open/can be camped.  Several times spawning into gunfire at my home base was an unexpected surprise.  It didn't feel like there was a 'home start point' in some games.
6. No MiniMap.  This is so confusing, why no MiniMap?  Most FPS I have played offer some form of MiniMap, yet not here, and even bringing up the map....everything is covered by the team scores.  Is this a deliberate choice to reduce player information for the same team?  A technical issue where you can't show 3 x 3 player teams at once?

Overall, I did enjoy the bulk of my game time in Control, and plan on playing it more over the next 3 weeks.  Hopefully this will give me enough game time to feel comfortable dropping into the core Apex Legends games in the future.  I want you to know that, regardless of the negatives I highlight, this game mode is doing what I hoped it would, give me a chance to learn the game.

If I were to suggest a different approach to this, I would suggest putting the 3 control points equidistant from each spawn.  Think East-West vs the current North-South.  I also wouldn't let players spawn at the Control points, but rather in the starting area only.  Lastly I would shape the layout so the starting areas can't be assaulted, nor be viable to snipe/shoot from.  The intent would be to have players spawn and go left, right or forward to the control points and combat with the enemy team.

Thanks for finally making a game mode that offers a lot of combat action with minimal wait times!

@mungozen 

Welcome to answers HQ and welcome back to Apex.

Well written Post and for the most part I agree with your thoughts especially about the home base spawn vs campers. 

BR has a bit of a learning curve but I am sure you can knock that out. 

@ATOMXIISo you want people to get a penalty for code-shoe and other server issues?

I got code-shoe in my very first game today, which would have had me not playing for10 mins when i wanted to play if there was a penalty.

They used to be able to bring back players into lobbies and i truly don't have the slightest clue why they disabled that feature.

Remove caustic from control please. The central control point is always in a tight proximity making caustic exteremely OP. Fighting one would be enough but three caustics filling the place with stink is just impossible to counter. Super fun game-mode otherwise, good job!