Bunny hopping is a difficult skill that 100% increases skill cap and players are rewarded for learning it. Sure it's slower than running in this game but that's not where it's useful... It truly comes in while healing. Allowing faster movement speeds while healing with limitations such as not uphill or not up stairs is balanced. That's why the mechanic should remain in the game.
@WeSmokeFatOnes wrote:Bunny hopping is a difficult skill that 100% increases skill cap and players are rewarded for learning it. Sure it's slower than running in this game but that's not where it's useful... It truly comes in while healing. Allowing faster movement speeds while healing with limitations such as not uphill or not up stairs is balanced. That's why the mechanic should remain in the game.
LMFAO pressing 1 button repeatably is not a skill.
If you do that, though, you won't bunnyhop. So, not really a relevant notion for the discussion.
Yes people who use macros are unfortunate but if there is one thing humanity has not learned in all its years on this earth it is that you cannot regulate integrity
"It's easy to do with a MACRO." You are 100% correct Tribang! Using macros are 100% unacceptable. Using exploits are 100% unacceptable.
- A step by step process needs to be created when players use exploits. Give them a detailed description on what the exploit is. When an exploit is brought up to the players attention, the player should be warned. If the player uses the exploit again, they should be timed out. If the player uses it again, threaten to ban the account completely.
- If the player uses a macro, they should be banned instantly. By using a macro, or creating one, it shows that the player has the capability of creating recoil macros. Protect your investments and make sure that macros are completely blocked!
Another exploit is, "Punching the ground before a player completely hits the ground." This stops the drop mechanic from working properly. When a player jumps from a long distance, the player is slowed down for a reason.
- A lot of players are making excuses for using exploits. When the exploits get dealt with, the player push it under the rug as if it never happened. Extremely great call for the players who are standing up against the usage of macros and exploits. I highly appreciate the efforts of these players that are trying to fix these issues.
I'm wondering if there is plans to deal with recoil macros
- I hope, it is a form of cheating. Recoil cheats are banned for a reason. By creating a macro, it's just another form of bypassing that cheat prevention system.
Or should I get with the times and start using macros? please advise.
Don't do it... I think a ban hammer should be introduced when players do this.
completely disagree with the OP's post Bhop IS an exploit and should be treated as such. its not cool its not clever and it certainly is not skill based.
the only way you can bhop is to press the jump key more times "than is humanly possible" with the assistance of a macro or rebinding jump to mousewheel with a macro which might just do it.
Also while on the subject of exploits autoexec.cfg with +speed for autorun should be looked at, if the game was meant to have an auto-run it would be an option in the bind menu to bind autorun. There is no autorun button and should be treated as an exploit or cheat, adding a file to your game directory that allow you to run everywhere with the touch of one button.
There were no macros back in Quake. So no, this should not stay in game. It is an abuse of a mechanic. Also deal with the no recoil macros already, most streamers even the top 2 for this game use it. It is not fun to watch, it is not fun to die to and it is not fun to having to deal with laser beams.
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You completely missed the point. If you can make a macro to accomplish it, it falls into the cheating/exploiting category which is against the rules.
Also, combos in fighting games are meant to be used. Animation cancels in FPS only shorten reloading animation by a tiny margin, nothing that allows you to shoot your weapon twice in a row when it's not supposed to. Finally, quake is an old game, wtv happens in there has nothing to do with Apex.
Healing is supposed to slow you down for balancing purposes. Allowing it to be circumvented with bunnyhopping is just plain stupid. May as well remove the slow completely while you're at it.
PK having to go through a lever action between each shot is also there for balancing. If you want an exploit that allows you to shoot it twice faster than intended to stay in the game, may as well throw the balance out the window and allow it to shoot faster, hey?
Slowing down the player or forcing him to go through animations is there to BALANCE the game. It is required. Allowing a bunch of key presses (and/or macros) to ignore those aspects and wanting those exploits to stay in the game is wanting to not have balance in the game. It's just stupid.
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