Lots 4 games in a row tonight and at least 3 of them had aim botters in them, was horrible how bad we lost to it. Each game was -30, -32, -35, and finally -37 points. How the hell am I supposed to come back from that when a win is only 11-12pts? Disgusts me that I just spend 40$ on apex tokens too. Not really any of the enjoyment I expected at all. And to the game review at the end of the last match asking me if i had a good match. Nope, and it was the final ranked arena I'm playing till its patched or changed for point tally's.

Arenas point system is busted dude. I just lost -67 from 1 single match after grinding D2 solo for 3 hours and being 4 points away from D1. Enough is enough.

Way to be really subtle you clown. Maybe you missed the fact where I said we caught people cheating.

@Ev3rM0r3Means youre bad at the game man. If you are losing more than youre winning its the game telling itself that you need to fall way down. So when you lose, the losses are more than what you earn when you win. Eventually youll get to a point where your wins equal then succeed how much you lose per game. And that is where your skill level is. and those aimbotters youre talking about are probably just good players who are better than you. And because theyre better than you you lose more points because you dont belong that high with them

@RockScorpion384It doesn’t mean hes bad at the game, the games matchmaking is badSome days I can log on and kill everyone like they are bots, other days the games are fair fights I win some I lose a ton, and other days its nothing but loss, loss, loss, loss... they do it on purpose and when its nothing but losses I quit playing the game and go on something elseToday is one of those days... I can only do 1-2 bullets on someone before I am 1 clipped... then you look at the death recap and its some level 27 hitting almost all headshots... Im done with this game awhile I can’t take it anymore they seriously need to address the smurfing issue and the hacker/ server issues in general before this game dies like Warzone did they both suffer from the exact same issues and its only a matter of time before these new warzone streamers and possibly players notice that

@Ev3rM0r3 Another fact; people who claim that 75% of matches they lost had cheaters in it are usually just bad (in comparison to the guy who just killed him ofc, everything is relative)... No offense and not accusing you, just speaking in general terms here =). You see it all the time on this forum; some people are certain that there are 20-30% hackers in every match. I have literally seen 0 hackers this season. I have had random teammates accusing me of hacking just for being able to one-clip or 1v3 a squad =)And @RockScorpion384 is actually correct, in principle. In any MMR based competitive game; if you lose way more points when losing in relation to what you gain when winning, its usually an indicator that your MMR value/game performance trend is to low for your to your current rank. And ofc its the same the other way around. If the game awards you tons of points for a win, the game has identified you as too good for your current rank and tries to boost you faster to the rank that corresponds best to your MMR/skills. But then again; it might just be Respawn who are too bad to design a MMR-based system =)

I quit arena's indefinitely, too high of point loss

20 Replies

RockScorpion384
4 years ago
@Ev3rM0r3Means youre bad at the game man. If you are losing more than youre winning its the game telling itself that you need to fall way down. So when you lose, the losses are more than what you earn when you win. Eventually youll get to a point where your wins equal then succeed how much you lose per game. And that is where your skill level is.

and those aimbotters youre talking about are probably just good players who are better than you. And because theyre better than you you lose more points because you dont belong that high with them
vibinm
4 years ago
Arenas point system is busted dude. I just lost -67 from 1 single match after grinding D2 solo for 3 hours and being 4 points away from D1. Enough is enough.
Ev3rM0r3
4 years ago
Way to be really subtle you clown. Maybe you missed the fact where I said we caught people cheating.
TheApexLegendNu
4 years ago
@RockScorpion384It doesn’t mean hes bad at the game, the games matchmaking is bad

Some days I can log on and kill everyone like they are bots, other days the games are fair fights I win some I lose a ton, and other days its nothing but loss, loss, loss, loss... they do it on purpose and when its nothing but losses I quit playing the game and go on something else

Today is one of those days... I can only do 1-2 bullets on someone before I am 1 clipped... then you look at the death recap and its some level 27 hitting almost all headshots... Im done with this game awhile I can’t take it anymore they seriously need to address the smurfing issue and the hacker/ server issues in general before this game dies like Warzone did they both suffer from the exact same issues and its only a matter of time before these new warzone streamers and possibly players notice that
Balladalidila
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Ev3rM0r3
Another fact; people who claim that 75% of matches they lost had cheaters in it are usually just bad (in comparison to the guy who just killed him ofc, everything is relative)... No offense and not accusing you, just speaking in general terms here =). You see it all the time on this forum; some people are certain that there are 20-30% hackers in every match. I have literally seen 0 hackers this season. I have had random teammates accusing me of hacking just for being able to one-clip or 1v3 a squad =)
And @RockScorpion384 is actually correct, in principle. In any MMR based competitive game; if you lose way more points when losing in relation to what you gain when winning, its usually an indicator that your MMR value/game performance trend is to low for your to your current rank. And ofc its the same the other way around. If the game awards you tons of points for a win, the game has identified you as too good for your current rank and tries to boost you faster to the rank that corresponds best to your MMR/skills.
But then again; it might just be Respawn who are too bad to design a MMR-based system =)
Muxtun
4 years ago
I'm with you on this for sure, I too won't be playing again for this reason and the one's I spoke of in my own post. Maybe one day it will work itself out, but for now, it's not worth it. Best of luck!
RockScorpion384
4 years ago
@TheApexLegendNub Just sounds like you are inconsistent if you have such varying results buddy. And the games where you lose constantly its just the other team is better than you. No conspiracy theory that the game purposely makes you lose.

Fun fact, the people who moan the most about hackers and smurfs are usually bad at the game and will blame anything else than accept theyre at fault. Sure on occasion you may be correct but majority of the time someone who you think is cheating is just good at the game
D3loFF
Rising Veteran
4 years ago
@Balladalidila I have 70% win rate in Arena and can tell you that it was extremely bad designed. You just can't play for fun... the game matches you 90% of the time with people who require hard carrying so you have to sweat a lot if you want to progress. And I want to progress, that's why I play Ranked in the first place...
Balladalidila
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@D3loFF

So unless you only have like 10-15 matches under the belt and actually played a substantial number of ranked matches, then if what you say is true, i,e that you have 70'% win rate in ranked AND says you hard carry your team 90% of all those matches, then logic dictates that you're are being matched also against opponents that are way, waay worse below you skill level, as well as bad teammates right? So at least you should have quite good times playing, even if the system is broken?
SILVERisSORRY
4 years ago
The MM is definitely broken and I will NOT be playing Ranked Arenas until something is fixed
For those of us that solo que the majority of the time, Ranked Arenas MM has been so bad and I don't want to lose the rank I’m at.
For example I’m put up against a full premade squad of lvl 300 - 500 players, and for teammates it pairs me with 2 lvl 30’s!!!?
Wtf!? My teammates skill was so low, it seemed like they had never played APEX before….
There is NO chance of me coming out of that situation with a WIN.
So for now i’m just avoiding Ranked altogether.