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Trenix's avatar
7 years ago

Increase TTK

Unless you're sniping with a sniper rifle that has heavy damage and also do a headshot, you should not be able to one shot a player. Game should be about who can shoot that best, not who shoots who first. More skill, less luck. In a game where you run around collecting gear, it's a real cheap-shot to get randomly killed instantly without having any ability to react. Also because it's a team game, players can drop pretty fast when everyone focuses on a single player. Even if players could take more damage, fights wouldn't be as long as they may seem, because you're limited to your supply of ammo, shield, and health.

If you truthfully want to have that unique battle royale, please do this. It'll separate this game from the rest quite nicely.

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  • The issue is that the only weapons in the game that can kill in 2 body shots or less (when you don't have shields, if you do have max shields than it's only 2 and 4 body shots respectively) are shotguns: PK and EVA-8. As it's quite easy to sneak up on people using cover (or to use certain abilities to reach people in CQC such as smoke) and that the endgame happens in small circle therefore forced CQC, shotguns are quite strong and you can just have a secondary for medium to long range anyway. I'd like to see which weapon killed me the most, I'd be ready to bet money it's the PK.

    I strongly believe those 2 need a nerf while SMGs and ARs need a small buff.

    Right now the meta is all about having a shotgun + wingman/sniper/LMG.
  • Trenix's avatar
    Trenix
    7 years ago

    @TSF_VindictiV wrote:
    The issue is that the only weapons in the game that can kill in 2 body shots or less (when you don't have shields, if you do have max shields than it's only 2 and 4 body shots respectively) are shotguns: PK and EVA-8. As it's quite easy to sneak up on people using cover (or to use certain abilities to reach people in CQC such as smoke) and that the endgame happens in small circle therefore forced CQC, shotguns are quite strong and you can just have a secondary for medium to long range anyway. I'd like to see which weapon killed me the most, I'd be ready to bet money it's the PK.

    I strongly believe those 2 need a nerf while SMGs and ARs need a small buff.

    Right now the meta is all about having a shotgun + wingman/sniper/LMG.

    You're right, shotguns need a nerf, especially those that feel like they actually one shot players. Yet I still feel like players shouldn't be downed so easily. One moment you're looting the next you can end up being shot up by three players. Once one teammate is downed, the probability of winning 2v3 is significantly reduced. Another way to handle this is by releasing duo matches at the very least.

  • Please not! TTK is too long with Level 2 and 3 armor. You don't stand a chance in 1v3 and 1v2 situations because the players are bullet sponges. Apex Legends has the longest TTK of all BR games I know.

    Increasing the TTK would make it even worse. Tactics would be just to take shotguns and run as a pack to annihilate players, who are too far from their team.

    They need to DECREASE the TTK. Armor needs a serious nerf. The game is most balanced and most fun with level 1 armor. This way, skilled players would be able to win some 1v2 or even 1v3 encounters.

    To me, it looks like you did not Play Apex Legends long and you need to practice and get to know all gear and weapons. With decent armor, no gun can one shot you. Except the Kraber maybe. As I said, Level 3 armor is too strong, making the TTK way too long! And it's not only me, famous youtubers like Jackfrags have a similar opinion.

  • Neil_Enbob's avatar
    Neil_Enbob
    7 years ago

    Disagree, the EVA-8 is fine. It's a shotgun, is meant to be strong in CQC. The peacekeeper could do with a slight range nerf, statistically the R-99 and the R-301 are two of the best guns in the game. The gun balance is good in Apex Legends, a better approach would be to buff the underpowered weapons like the Mozamweak, Longbow etc.

  • @Neil_Enbob  Considering PK has 110 DPS (one shot per second) if you land all pellets and EVA-8 has 126 DPS (2 shots per sec at 63 damage per shot) if you land all pellets, that shouldn't be a thing. No weapon comes even close to that DPS in the game beside maybe longbow or wingman with skull piercer and if you ONLY land headshots which requires a lot more skill. 

    Also, while both R-99 and R-301 are great weapons for their respective categories, the other 2 SMGs and ARs are barely used for a reason. 
    I really enjoy the playstyle of SMGs but they are simply all subpar to a PK or EVA-8 atm. 

  • Snipers in any game are 100% about who shoots first. So are shotguns to an extent.
    The TTK is abysmally too long as it is, any longer and it's doesn't become about gunskill anymore my who can bunnyhop and runaway the best.
    It's needs to be tweaked a but lower so that tactical flanking actually works.

    All you kids who get mad at the guy who shot first are just mad that you put yourself out in the open or didn't check your surroundings.

    You just want to run around with no consequence.

  • Trenix's avatar
    Trenix
    7 years ago

    @SpitfireCH83 wrote:

    Please not! TTK is too long with Level 2 and 3 armor. You don't stand a chance in 1v3 and 1v2 situations because the players are bullet sponges. Apex Legends has the longest TTK of all BR games I know.

    Increasing the TTK would make it even worse. Tactics would be just to take shotguns and run as a pack to annihilate players, who are too far from their team.

    They need to DECREASE the TTK. Armor needs a serious nerf. The game is most balanced and most fun with level 1 armor. This way, skilled players would be able to win some 1v2 or even 1v3 encounters.

    To me, it looks like you did not Play Apex Legends long and you need to practice and get to know all gear and weapons. With decent armor, no gun can one shot you. Except the Kraber maybe. As I said, Level 3 armor is too strong, making the TTK way too long! And it's not only me, famous youtubers like Jackfrags have a similar opinion.


    I need to learn how to play? I think you need to learn how to headshot. I can down players pretty easily end-game, especially with extended mags. Maybe you're also picking the wrong guns? Also I don't care about famous youtubers, lol. Their opinion is as meaningful as everyone else's.


  • @xerosum wrote:
    @Trenix, separate it how? It’ll make it more like PUBG. The TTK is fine the way it is.

    Have you played PUBG?