Inventory Change and Loot nerfs

@flakeeey0304 While I do not agree with the term "grenade spam" but I'd accept the grenade nerf without any problem, but there's no way I'll keep shut about the ammo and heal nerfs. These two should be reversed asap. Well there are people out there who just can't play the game without a pk/r99 combo or add a wingman there instead of pk but there are plenty of people who prefer the combo of flatline/r301 and flatline/r99. And it was quite comfortable previously before this update where you had 160 ammo of both type while occupying 4 slots but with this update it sucks, 120 ammo isn't enough and 180 ammo on both guns is too much and leaves no space to carry the already nerfed heals. Basically the balance is entirely * up. People who use pk/wingman and r99 combo aren't affected with the change so they be barking on every post that only people who can't play are having problem with this nerf but nah mate it really sucks when you can't use your favorite gun combos which you could do earlier.

The second part where it sucks is "third party". Previously you'd always had that extra few rounds of ammo and heals left after wiping out a squad and you could atleast defend yourself from getting third partied but now the guy who attacks first looks like a complete fool. In last 2 weeks plenty of instances happened with me when my squad pushed and won the second last battle of the game but got owned due to no heals left by a squad who saw us in mid fight and just waited a few meters down the lane. The game has gotten less aggressive and you'll definitely notice that, running out of ammos and heals has affected a lot of player's mind and that reflects on their approach in matches.

@Dokuganryu699That is ridiculous. Might as well get rid of the guns then right? No point in them if we can just grenade spam right? That's all I hear from this post.

Grenades SHOULD NOT be a primary way to fight. ESPECIALLY with how much damage they do. Arc stars do 70+ depending on how close you are AND they slow you down. The blast radius is at least 10m (yes the damage is low, but the slow down is sill the same) I don't even see ppl use frag grenades unless its all they find in the first few minutes of the round.

Either reduce how many you can carry, which I think is the right thing to do, or cut the radius in half, or drastically reduce the damage of arc stars. The slow down on top of all the damage (basically wipes your shield out) is just stupid. I get your whole argument "thats how the game is" but that is exactly why it needs to change, that is not fun. Who wants to play a game where you can just spam grenades and shoot maybe 15 bullets? It is not easy to escape the blast radius either because it brings you out of cover. And since there is no limit on grenades, you can easily surround the entire area with 5 arc stars guaranteeing you'll drop them.

All my arguments about this game are in the direction of bringing more fun to it. It is not fun when you go around dropping people with guns and doing well only to get eliminated by grenades. It isn't like we can just respawn and get back in the fight.

EDIT: The heals nerf was to combat grenade spam and my thinking is ppl would limit grenades in turn for heals. Which didn't work.

@Sir_Named yes you're absolutely correct, grenade now takes up 1 slot each and with ammo and heals nerfed there aren't enough space to carry grenades anymore.Also carrying them doesn't mean they'd do 100% damage on enemy, 90% of time my nades do barely 20-30 damage.

@SolitaryMassacre I started the thread mainly to point out the issues of ammo and heals nerfing which is a crap move and I am genuinely pissed because 160 bullets in 2 slots was perfect for me to use r99/flatline or 301/flatline combo but now 120 is not enough and 180 takes up too much space with a lvl 1 backpack. Same with heals you could heal 3 times to purple sheild with 2 slots but now it's just 2 which really sucks when you get third partied and are out of heals. I'm cool with the 1:1 grenade slot nerf though.

Also, saying this respectfully that if people do not like grenades they should really migrate to games which are purely based on guns, grenades were always a part of the game and it's always legit to carry a purple bag full of nades with no ammo or heals, it depends on the player itself. You don't do it, I don't do it doesn't really matter. But it's legit and we the people who carry no nades or 1 nade have no right to speak foul on them because we got rekt by some nades in a few match. I lose too man due to people throwing nades but I take it as a part of the game and move on to the next one instead of crying like babies that I got "grEnADe sPaMMeD"

@SolitaryMassacre Well man I won't mind or rather I do not mind at all if someone had stocked up 7 grenades by sacrifising ammo and their chances to fight with the last squad with gun. I don't mind mate. They can carry 0 ammo and 16 nades I won't mind. That's purely their choise. And tbh I very much do not understand why it pisses off people like you don't do it or I don't do it doesn't mean no one will do it. That's a part of strategy, maybe apex could have changed the accuracy of the grenade like you can't throw accurately from over a distance of 50 meters or something similar to that and it would have encouraged people to stop carrying nades and throwing them accurately from large distances.

@Sir_Named  again I'd agree with ya, many people do camp with gold armors and fully kitted weapons at circle ending areas and it's really tough to break in through caustic traps so we do need serious amount of grenades at those times, 2 grenades won't do anything during those scenarios as you have like 10% chance to hit one of the three camping with 2 grenades and it's barely do 20-30 damage to them overall.

@SolitaryMassacre I can't imagine a Caustic leaving a trapped building to escape one grenade. Dodge the grenade or tank the damage but it'll take a lot more to force me out of a strategically strong position.