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CrustiiToes
5 years ago
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Lets Talk About The Prowler, L-Star and Rampage

For both Ranked: Battle Royale and Ranked: Arenas sake.

The prowler being a common drop, I can find the prowler in about 1 out of every 5 chests or ground loot spots. For a weapon that can down a purple shield in 3 bursts and 4 burst a red shield, plz just add it to every box from now on. In Ranked: Arenas the prowler is a first round buy with insane damage. 

The L-Star, they reduced the brightness of the shots so you can actually see what you are shooting. With the addition of added attachments such as stabilizer and energy clip. The L-Star can have reduced sway, recoil and more rounds fired. L-Star with no clip is the same L-Star from every season prior to this one and can down with one clip if you can prevent the overheat. With a bigger mag, you can fire longer controlled burst without reloading. In a way it's the fastest reloading weapon in the game that has the same fire rate as a volt and does about 18 dmg. It's an uncommon drop and you need pretty much all the attachments to make it contest with other broken weapons. In BR its a good weapon but in Arenas, just try it out. The L-Star has been overshadowed by the prowler and Rampage so it's power hasnt been realized. If most people are known for abusing the prowler and Rampage, I will always abuse the L-Star. 

Lastly, the Rampage. It has insane dmg but very slow fire rate(what the spitfire should have been). Slow fire rate means it should not be able to contest against SMGs and ARs in close range, wrong. It's high dmg makes up for its slow fire rate. Slow firing automatic weapon means tgere is more room for error when you miss since you still have 15+ bullets left. Literally no recoil so it's very easy to just aim at the head in close range, has very good hip fire control. In Ranked: Arenas, can be a first round buy against blue shields which melts. I'll give you a tip, stop trying to reload during engagements if you have close to 20 bullets left since it can still down in 10 bullets. 

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  • EA_Mako's avatar
    EA_Mako
    5 years ago

    Thanks for the feedback @CrustiiToes!

    We do have some minor adjustments coming today for the Prowler and L-Star in particular, so keep an eye out for these and let us know how things feel afterwards. 

    Later today we'll also ship a quick balance patch that:  
    • Reduces Prowler damage from 15>14
    • Reduces speed while ADSing with the L-Star
    • Fixes a map hole near Climatizer
    • Raises prices for the Prowler and L-Star in Arenas

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  • EA_Mako's avatar
    EA_Mako
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    5 years ago

    Thanks for the feedback @CrustiiToes!

    We do have some minor adjustments coming today for the Prowler and L-Star in particular, so keep an eye out for these and let us know how things feel afterwards. 

    Later today we'll also ship a quick balance patch that:  
    • Reduces Prowler damage from 15>14
    • Reduces speed while ADSing with the L-Star
    • Fixes a map hole near Climatizer
    • Raises prices for the Prowler and L-Star in Arenas
  • CrustiiToes's avatar
    CrustiiToes
    5 years ago

    @EA_Mako This is very helpful. Dmg is a problem with the prowler but I feel that a longer wait between bursts is needed and more recoil would be better since prowler should rule like a shotgun because of its burst potential but should start to vastly reduce at range. If the dmg with a white clip is just enough to down a purple shield like any other SMG with a white clip

    This is a nice balance but dmg should be there but it's effective range should start to decline because it's like a shotgun for those who don't like to use shotguns. 

  • CrustiiToes's avatar
    CrustiiToes
    5 years ago
    @EA_Mako The L-Stars Problem is its clip size. Allowing it to get bigger clips its total overheat timer is increased.

    With a no clip let's say I'm about to overheat, I stop shooting for a seconds and get 6 bullets back. With a gold clip and am about to overheat, I stop shooting for a second and get 15 bullets back. That's the problem, they need to make the cooldown get 6 bullets back after waiting a second no matter the clip level, only keep the overall heat timers. This forces players to overheat to reload and only use the cooldown if the enemies are really low.
  • Dusst3r's avatar
    Dusst3r
    Seasoned Traveler
    5 years ago

    Hi @EA_Mako 

    That's great changes. My experience fighting against L-Star is that I keep missing shots as the red energy blast completely fades away with red wingman iron sight or red dot.

    Most of the time i cannot see my sight

  • -B0MB3R0_TTV's avatar
    -B0MB3R0_TTV
    5 years ago

    Spitfire was a pain in the *, so, they put it into the drop, but the 55 bullets version, who is 1045 dmg per clip gun.

    Then they made a pain in the * version of LSTAR and then, if your not upset enough, they made the rampage, a gun who can even brake doors with a dmg per clip of 1120 with "only" 40 bullets.

    Thanks guys! I think the respawn team are the first who cant aim, so, get all this easy guns, aimbotassist and wallhack legends.

  • CrustiiToes's avatar
    CrustiiToes
    5 years ago

    This is my second post on this topic as the first post explains the problem, this has a solution. 

    Dmg is a problem with the prowler but I feel the big hits are that a longer wait between bursts is needed, longer 5 shot bursts and more recoil would be better since prowler should rule like a shotgun because of its burst potential but should start to vastly reduce at range through hard to control recoil. If the dmg with a white clip is just enough to down a purple shield like any other SMG with a white clip. The damage should be 13 since 3 bursts at 14 dmg is still able to down a purple. 

    This is a nice balance but dmg should be there but it's effective range should start to decline because it's like a shotgun for those who don't like to use shotguns. 

    The L-Stars Problem is its clip size. Allowing it to get bigger clips its total overheat timer is increased.

    With a no clip let's say I'm about to overheat, I stop shooting for a seconds and get 6 bullets back. With a gold clip and am about to overheat, I stop shooting for a second and get 15 bullets back. That's the problem, they need to make the cooldown get 6 bullets back after waiting a second no matter the clip level, only keep the overall heat timers. This forces players to overheat to reload and only use the cooldown if the enemies are really low.

    L-Star abuse isn't that vastly known since it is overshadowed by prowler and Rampage for good reasons. 

    Rampage, the only thing I can think of the Rampage is that it needs actual recoil because it's the most effective weapon at mid-range since recoil is pretty non existent and maybe -1 in dmg. But if u have good aim, a r-99, volt or shotgun. You should win most close range engagements against Rampage Abusers that aren't gibby.