Mastiff and EVA-8 Season 5 Thoughts
First of all, Peacekeeper deserved to be Care Packaged. However, Mastiff being a normal regular weapon makes the EVA-8 garbage tier now. Reason? Both the Mastiff and EVA-8 have 0% leg damage red...
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I can’t land a headshot with Mastif, also no hop-up, I think it’s only good for super close fights.
We must be playing different games because Mastiff does way more than 11 damage. 11 is from a Gibby/Caustic and you only hit them with 1 pellet.
Not to mention Season 5 current has no hit reg issues with most of the weapons.
Besides the bugs, Mastiff and Havoc are current strongest weapons for Season 5.
People keep forgetting that +100 damages are on paper and only happened “if” all pellets from a Mastiff (or PK) lands on the body. in other words even in pretty close range all pellets might hit the target but some can hit hands or legs and cause the total damage goes down.
By increasing the spread factor of the pellets and removing the chocking hop-up, the chance of hitting targets in mid range or above with 104 is zero. This can rarely happen in very close range combats.while in EVA8 you won’t see such spread and all pellets in shots are sitting in a close circle and dealt damage in that is more constant.
I still believe this Mastif is much weaker than season 4 PK and this change was a big nerf to shotgun weapons.
The head multiplier on the mastiff needs to be reduced and the ADS speed the weapon tracks with should be reduced as well I also reduce that magazine size from 6 down to at least 4 if not 2 as this would then make people have to hit their shots not just blast away at random
- @Alphabets Mastiff is really good, maybe a increase of time between shots will help, now can hit 200damage in two shots super fast, the rest of the mastiff stats are fine.
lf you go here for Mastiff
https://apexlegends.gamepedia.com/Mastiff_Shotgun
And here for EVA-8
https://apexlegends.gamepedia.com/EVA-8_Auto
You'll see the current damage numbers for them. Do note that they are if all pellets land obviously. I had updated the Mastiff information yesterday to match Season 5. Those are the numbers it can do. What's funny is how weak a Mastiff is to Fortify Legends. You see the 88s? Even if Gibby/Causitc has level 2/3/4 helmets. You'll get a lot of 11s from fortified legends but if your shots are missing. But most of the time you might land the majority of them.
As for EVA-8, everyone already knows the stats for it but feel free to look at Double Tap info if you want. Just remember that Double Tap has a slower fire rate in Burst mode and takes 2-4 shots.
Personally, I haven't fought anyone with using Double Tap vs Mastiff. I have won fights with EVA-8 Auto Mode vs Mastiff but Mastiff usually wins about roughly 80% of the time or I just suck. 😛
When I use a shotgun in Season 5. I am usually now using Hemlok/EVA-8 or Hemlok/Mastiff. Followed by the other classics (R-99/R-301/Havoc/Flatline + either Mastiff or EVA-8).
Not with it's RoF, you can easily hit 2-3 shots for well over 200 damage in a second, that's the other big problem with it, it's Rate of Fire is way too fast, at least with the PK you had to re-chamber every shot with a decent delay.
- @PruneGang4Life It's difficult to do 90 damage per shot at range with the Mastiff.
The RoF isn't that much faster than the PK, plus the PK had much more range. The Mastiff isn't as good.
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