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drevinum9
3 years ago

Re: Aim assist is ruining the game

@Zulkiers Does that not prove the point that if you master one input why give one of the input unfair advantage?

Why do we have aim assist on controller? To be able to compete with MnK? If so how would they ever balance this added benefit to one of the inputs since everyones base skill in the input is not the same but the added benefit for that input is the same and builds ontop of already existing skill?

If it was not for the ability to compete with MnK but to make the game look and feel fun to be played on console then we have a severe issue since then it is not even based on the ability to compete against MnK....

I don't have the answer, I doubt any of the players have the answers and EA/RESPAWN/whatever the organization is called would not tell us. If not telling us the reason then would it be naive to just say it was to make the game feel and look fun for console players so they would keep playing? Since the console players stand for the majority of players and buyers of in game content I would assume whatever they do is to make sure controller players are pleased and feel like they can compete.

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  • XxColdFangxX's avatar
    XxColdFangxX
    3 years ago

    @drevinum9
    How long had your friend played on mnk before then?
    Mnk definitely takes a longer time to learn to use than a controller and you can imagine what shaking off the rust would be like if you hadn't used it in a while. 

    Imo, it's an even playing field. 

  • lowpush3v1rolle's avatar
    lowpush3v1rolle
    3 years ago

    Are you guys serious? This is not even a discussion to have.

    In apex, the amount of time it takes to get good on controller is 180 hours of gameplay. That is what is agreed upon from decent players that switched to controller.

    In a game, where aim is supposed to matter, the best players in the world, and some of the best aimers in the world can actually switch to a different mode of playing (a different skill - controller) and then do equally well or better as they do with mouse and key after 180 hours of practice, when they practiced aim with mouse and key maybe 100 000 hours. So pro players switching from mouse and key to controller? that is ridiculous for a game to keep something that makes that happen in the competitive scene. What a joke!

    The aim assist on console is 0.6, fine, keep it like that, console is mostly for casual anyways. If they want to be hardcore they can come to PC
    The aim assist on PC for controller is 0.4, which is still way too much. That is half an aimbot almost, aimbot kinda gives players an advantage in shooting games.
    Adjust it to 0.2, even then people will start to notice its a bit off, but its not a gamechanger. It really should be 0.0 for PC lobbies, so that the recoil that is past human reaction time to control on PC is also that on console so there is no gap in DPS/time that its possible to do. 

  • Zulkiers's avatar
    Zulkiers
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @lowpush3v1roller Most people I fight and 90% of the people I play with are PC. Anyone I see on Console winds up dead quickly.
    Quit dissing them.
    Console is still at disadvantage than PC.
    Especially since PC can get hacks that EA still hasn't rectified.
    1/5th of my opponents kill me 15 meters around corners. Run distance 30 meters. NO Line of Sight. And they machine gun me. That's a PC Hacks thing, NOT a console aim assist thing.
  • XxColdFangxX's avatar
    XxColdFangxX
    3 years ago
    @lowpush3v1roller
    That 0.0 is never going to happen until they make controllers that can aim as precisely as a mouse.
    Currently they just can't do it. They have a very limited precision aiming which is why they have aim assist.

    Also those "decent players" likely have ample experience in both mnk and on controller, and the time it would take to get good at any game on any input depends on the player themselves. Not everyone learns at the same speed, and not everyone has the same skill threshold.

    Saying someone shouldn't be allowed to compete or can't be a hard-core player because they prefere a different imput is one of the dumbest things I've heard.
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    2 years ago
    @lowpush3v1roller Typically the people that switch from mnk to controller do not need nearly the amount of time due to the following-
    1- It takes more than input and aim to be good at this game. The people really good at the game have crazy game sense. That isn't reset or lost when changing inputs.
    2- A controller is natural for gaming. The keys and inputs are much more limited so you don't have to learn nearly as much. It is simply easier to use and get up to speed on.
    3- Many of the mnk people likely played on controller in the past, probably on console. When they got their PC they switched to mnk due to it being so much better on most games. This change makes it easier to convert.

    One other thing. An argument is better if people do not exaggerate. 100,000 hours is over 11 years.

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