Re: I wish Apex had solo queue. But not because I want to play solo.

@XxColdFangxX 

I assumed in this case that the user was referring to a solo queue where you only get matched with other players that are solo on their team.

It's been quite confusing as the same term (Solo Queue) is used for both these things:

• Solo, squads of 1 throughout the entire lobby
• Solo queue players getting matched with other solo queue players (Still 2 or 3 squads)

Hence the confusion, so the arguments weren't really fitting for this exact thread.

Though do note that if there weren't any issues with having a Solo Queue that it would've been implemented long ago.

A long time back they tested this and their data indicated that the solo queue mode just wasn't the right fit for the game, so they decided to take it off.

Users could technically make use of the no fill option though this might make it harder for them to play the game.

Though then again, it's a team game, not a solo game, so that's to be expected.

But then again, it's also not guaranteed that these players will make use of the solos mode, as there are plenty of reasons why it would be better to play with a team when you'd like to do your own thing.

So if it's not guaranteed to resolve the issue, why would you want to implement it?

Just because people want it doesn't make it the best choice to make, Respawn has their data and has decided to do it this way so far, I honestly don't see them changing their minds again.

Splitting the queue shouldn't be done unless absolutely necessary, currently I cannot find that it's absolutely necessary.

@XHelperZ

Seeing as apex already has a no fill option for trios and duos (that these players still don't use) I can only assume they meant an actual solo game mode being added. (Unless they removed it and I didn't know)

Correct apex is a team game, but hardly anyone treats it that way, and they sure as hell don't back it up when it comes to the match making.
Those who get their team slaughtered on purpose because they don't want to deal with a weak team? Splitting off from your team to run lone wolf? Quitting as soon as you get knocked? None of that is team play and they do absolutely nothing about it. So 'It's a team game' isn't a reason to not add it.
It might not completely solve the issue but what is the actual harm in adding it? None. It's another game mode players have to choose from. A game mode other brs successfully have incorporated into their game play.
Having a solo mode will no longer give players the excuses they have now as to why they don't solo que, and therefore they can actually be held accountable for game throw, because let's face it, if they really wanted to fix the lone wolf non no fill solo players, they'd actually hold them accountable for it. 

Que times might need to be adjusted, but if it makes the player base happy, do it. Not everyone wants to play on a team. Not everyone wants to play solo. But if you solo que in duos or trios, unless you're some sort of God at the game you're not really going to have a great chance at surviving very long. Your options are to constantly hide or attempt a third party. Where's the fun in that?
Even then, with the * matchmaking apex has, solos at this point will just be a nightmare of uneven lobbies.
So while yes I think there's needs to be a solo mode in the game, there is the more important matter of fixing the matchmaking.

@XxColdFangxX 

Yeah it seems like they actually meant a solo mode, which has existed for a while due to the playerbase constantly nagging the devs for it.

Their data did show that it wasn't a great addition, so this is pretty much one of the main reasons to why it probably won't be used again.

"It's a team game" is a great reason to not add it.

The balance regarding guns and legends is pretty much done in mind with Trio's, which can still function for duo teams.

Even map balance is something that is designed around that.

If users aren't using the no fill mode then I don't see why we are expecting them to use the solos mode, just doesn't seem like that would change anything.

We'd be adding another mode which could increase queue times, which is something that should be prevented unless it's proven that it doesn't affect the queue times.

Next to that, if it doesn't resolve the issue, then what's the point in adding it?

We should be tackling the main issue, not adding things here and there to keep the mind of the community off of it, that's just wasting resources and time at that point, unless the community actually wants that.

These players really do not need excuses, once they add in the solos mode they'll find another excuse, most of these users don't even care about giving an excuse.

They cannot be held accountable for going in alone or leaving when dead, it's still a casual mode, you can't exactly punish players for having an exact playstyle.

Users are granted tools to prevent these random users from invading their squads, if they don't use it then that's pretty much on them.

Again, it might make a good addition here and there, though the test run the devs had given it has just shown that it really doesn't fit this game, so it's probably not going to be implemented again.

@XHelperZ
Fixing more important community issues? What's more important than making the game enjoyable to actually play to the community? * matchmaking and these solo lone wolf types have been an issue pretty much since release, and they are the biggest issue the game has, but they haven't fixed it and it's on what season 14 now? And they're afraid of adding a solo mode because it didn't do well? The game modes we have now aren't even doing well but do they care?

These are issues that people are leaving the game over, so yea they should take priority over any new game mode or added content but all we get is new legends, new skins, and a handful of other bugs. 

So why the hell ask to fix it when it seemed easier to ask them to add a new game mode instead?

'It's a team game.' But, it really isn't.
There's no incentive to keep people from disconnecting as soon as they see their team.
People hot drop to get rid of noob teammates because they don't want to deal with it.
People que up in trios and duos, that don't bother pushing the no fill que then run off alone and get themselves killed.
'It's a play style' it's either a team game or its a game to play as you want. So which is it? If it's a team game as you keep proclaiming then yes, they can be held accountable by game throw, because that kind of game style doesn't fall into the category of playing as a team. (Especially when they have the use of aforementioned no fill button.)
"It's a casual game mode' that's the most bs excuse if ever to keep allowing those kind of players to ruin the game for those that are actually trying to enjoy it.
As stated before it might not completely fix the issue, but I bet quite a good amount of them would hop over to solos.
Some of the legends might not be as useful in a solo mode, but then it would be a play as you want game mode.
The simple fact of the matter is the terms BR and Team play just don't mix well. A BR implies that you get to run the game how you want, you make your choices on where to go where you land, and you get to be the best of the best. The world is you proverbial oyster.
A team game is heavily reliant on sticking together, working together and communicating, and you strive to be the best team there is.. If they aren't going to enforce the actual team play ethic of the game outside of the heavily competitive ranked then they need to dump the term all together because doing it as they have has just made * game play and an unenjoyable game.
It didn't do well as a game mode due to teaming, well, maybe if they actually did something about the reports they'd get we wouldn't have these issues. Team play is always an issue with solo br modes. What matters is how it was handled. They obviously didn't handle the issue, hence why the game mode didn't do well. 

Other brs with solo and team modes have been doing a lot better than apex on that front.. the issue isn't the mode. 
LFG or playing with friends doesn't fix the issue as a whole. It's just a * patch job so no one has to actually do anything to fix it.
So while I respect that you have you own opinion on the matter your logic just doesn't seem to have any good points.