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6 years ago
@Sir_Named Caustic needs to find the totem first and prep it with the caustic gas trap. First issue. Pathfinder is not a direct counter, mobility is a counter and applies to most legends who can move fast. Gibraltar's dome shield counters everything, also comes with the downside of being a sitting duck, and what do we learn in the tutorial? A standing target is a dead target. Most passives are useless. *cough* Wattson *cough* Wraith. Crypto drone, same problem, find the totem first. In the time you position your drone, they likely found you already. What then? Dead, that's what you are. Hammerpoint weapons are strong against everything that only has health, likelihood of you only having health after fighting a revenant is high. Likely - just like him - you'll charge shields first like every individual with a bit of brain does. Or you go on a search while he takes his time healing. Next fight surely will be in your favor.
6 years ago
@Peri_Longbow_plz Well, Lifeline isn’t really affected by the Revenant silence. Her most important combat mechanic is that she can heal 25% faster and revive faster, which is a passive.
Crypto doesn’t have to find the totem. He just has to position his drone at least in the direction the shadows are, to warn you when/where they are.
My main... point... (pun semi-intended) for hammerpoint is that it will destroy shadow form characters. The P2020 can really shred, and the Mozambique can deal high damage per shot fast. Other high damage weapons will also shred.
Plus, I think you are kind of overrating the silence. If you get silenced, use strafing skills or other movement skills to evade. This is especially true for a character like Wraith, who can’t really rely on her abilities anyway. Her tactical cooldown is 35 seconds, so it’s not something she can spam, and her ult wouldn’t really help in the thick of the fight. Her small hitbox is a big factor, and that isn’t affected by the silence ability.
I do agree Revenant doesn’t need more buffs, he is pretty balanced. (Although it would be nice if he could get a small climbing buff.)
Crypto doesn’t have to find the totem. He just has to position his drone at least in the direction the shadows are, to warn you when/where they are.
My main... point... (pun semi-intended) for hammerpoint is that it will destroy shadow form characters. The P2020 can really shred, and the Mozambique can deal high damage per shot fast. Other high damage weapons will also shred.
Plus, I think you are kind of overrating the silence. If you get silenced, use strafing skills or other movement skills to evade. This is especially true for a character like Wraith, who can’t really rely on her abilities anyway. Her tactical cooldown is 35 seconds, so it’s not something she can spam, and her ult wouldn’t really help in the thick of the fight. Her small hitbox is a big factor, and that isn’t affected by the silence ability.
I do agree Revenant doesn’t need more buffs, he is pretty balanced. (Although it would be nice if he could get a small climbing buff.)
- 6 years ago@Sir_Named Uhh possible mistake there mate.
Unless they changed it recently, hammer point doesn't affect shadows at all.
Tested this. - 6 years ago
I think I might be wrong on that. Although it’s kind of wacky if it doesn’t do extra damage to Revenant. Not sure why that is, but it’s weird.
Hopefully, I’m right, but I doubt it. - 6 years ago@Sir_Named Hammer point offing the Revenant Shadows form easy was my first assumption too. They might have changed it recently to work but when I tested it, which was around when rev was first added and everyone jumped on him, his shadows didn't take extra damage. Which I think is because the idea is that its "shadow armour" or the "death protection" guarding them.
I also figured that the counter to shadows was Hammer Point but all I can see is that the last time I tested it this was not the case. I think its because then suddenly there would be an easy way to shred peoples life pool and gimp the Ultimate early during its life. Which considering the whole 1 hp thing, radius and overall complaints about Revenant and where he was prior, glad they didn't do that. - 6 years ago
The buffs for Revenant is fine but the only change I want to see towards him is when he's dead/eliminated/squad wipe.
His cloud from his Silence should disappear. It still last for the whole 10 seconds and I had a match where I killed a Revenant, but I get Sentinel for 74 by an Octane and what do you know. My reaction to the Sentinel made me step on an already dead Revenant's Silence which hits me for 11. Funny enough, it knocked me.
Shouldn't have happened in the first place.
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