Revert wraith nerfs
Every season wraith has been nerfed, its time to revert all those nerfs and make her playable again.
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- @Balladalidila Pick rate is not a good method to calculate power of a legend but it makes you see that those players like to play that legend . Other legends are very good also but every person has his own preference of play style . Nerfing wraith is Nerfing a portion of play style . I don't have a problem with buffing other legends but Nerfing wraith every season and buffing other legends every season is not good. Many pro players stopped playing or stopped using wraith because she has useless abilities now .
@codeleaf00 Octane's stim + pad is an effective escape as well as Bangalore smoke + passive so long as she isn't near death. The community already has a problem with Horizon's gravity lift and Pathfinder's grapple has been nerfed into the ground so these are really bad points to defend Wraith's tactical with. Gibraltar's dome is also slower to activate than Wraith's OLD tactical so I'm not sure why you brought up the big guy. Octane is really the only fair comparison you have and I hear he's getting nerfed soon.
I'm not against Wraith's tactical getting a small buff but the OP was talking about reverting it to the way it was before. I never cared about Wraith's void but it was a ridiculously strong ability.
Decrease the activation time a bit? Sure why not.
Revert her tactical to the instant use, 15 second cool down it had before? No.
They've also tried buffing bad Legends before. How did everyone feel about 75 gun shield HP Gibby complete with quicker revive and healing? Beloved character I know.
- @Zamaha400 Well the thing is I don’t like using those characters. I am no good with it, I love having an octane but gibby is dead weight when they’re not handled by a good player. I’m not comparing how other legends escape
I am here to discuss wraith tactical being reverted back to normal. It seems wraith is the most hated legend in this game and everyone wants to nerf this beast. - @Zamaha400 Yes it is all I care about on wraith.
You say there’s no counter but there are methods. Chase after them when they use the tactical, a short window is open to fire at them before they take their weapons out, or simply watch from a distance and attack.
It’s hilarious how many people die when they think one person is enough to fight a party of three. Amount of damage you take from three people is insane to fight off against as one person pushing.
I hate to admit but decisions count in the game and when a teammate pushes with no plan, everyone dies.
Do wraiths kill you as much now? I certainly don’t see that many wraith players - @codeleaf00
Some legends are stronger than others.
Most have weak abilities, wraith is getting there as well. If everyone cared about the game being balanced then shouldn’t rampart carry her mini gun around, pretty useless how it’s mounted.
When I first heard rampart had that ability, I unlocked her and was extremely disappointed. Basically a pathetic legend. And how her wall break down easily is a joke, setting them up in battle leaves you vulnerable which is why no one uses it.
Loba was a hated character for awhile until people learned how to use her properly - @codeleaf00 Usually when pro‘s spam a legend hero or what ever in a game then because it’s overpowered not because they like it
So yea all wraith nerfs were deserved - @matzesingt many pro players are using bangalore and octane so is it a good idea to nerf them as well ? legend pick rate should not be the basis of nerfing a legend. wraith players have a different play style and and when you are used to one legend its hard to change legend, not to mention all the good skins bought on the main legend. when it is nerfed and made useless all of that investment is gone. wraith really did not deserve nerfs every season due to pick rate .
No one beside ShivFPS is permanently using Bangalore at top level, and the guy is content creator. He ain`t a fully committed pro player. He play very rarely on tournaments.
And he plays Bangalore from the start, cause he likes her, not cause she is strong.
Bangalore pick rate is being average, even below that since day 1.Octane pick rate was good in pub, but he was terrible in high Ranked and zero used in Competition.
Your comparison are just terrible.
Octane just receive buffs and is a strong legend in S8, but was garbage through the whole game lifespan.
Wraith was OP most of that time. And she is still A legend.
This is what i call a biased point of view, but anyone can make his mind up.
@codeleaf00Not sure about recent tournaments but I am pretty certain that neither octane or bengalore have a pickrate as high as prenerfed wraith...
Hell man I’m Even confident that wraith still has a higher pickrate than both of them Combined when it comes to competitive play....
And yes when a legend has legit 100% pickrate in every team for years in competitive play then there is a problem... it has nothing to do with playstyle or cuz wraith is such a cool animeweebwaifu
A pro playing for money doesnt simply care... they Play what’s most effective and that’s it
In to lazy to bring up recent numbers of her PlayRate in proplay but I’m pretty sure she is high up there probably something like top5 atleastand when she is played there and picked a lot then she is still a strong legend, and definitely strong enough to carry pubs and ranked, so pls adjust to the fact that she is not massively broken anymore
- @matzesingt Actually in competitive play gibraltar and bloodhound have higher pick rate. In most of the competitive play including ALGS gibraltar pick rate is higher than most other legends it does not mean that he needs to be nerfed due to pick rate but he is useful in open areas. wraith is useful for portal however her Q is now useless. she has lower pick rate than bloodhound and gibraltar and even horizon in competitive play . in casual play her pick rate is lower than horizon and octane. your arguments are invalid. We want wraith's Q to be normal again she was not broken before but she is literally useless now , her passive and her Q are useless, her portal is useful for team but for solo its almost useless. because of her big hitbox she gets hit without even aiming at her body now. there was a clip of pro player on twitch he sprayed a wraith without aiming at her body but in front of where she was going and she still died. Her nerfs should be reversed to make her playable again.
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