RP penalty for zero damage

I don't mind putting in a penalty for this, though only if these users do it over and over, people can get finished off quite quickly in a match and we wouldn't want to punish for that.

Personally, I think players that don't perform well would be able to reach Gold with time, it's not exactly the hardest rank to reach.

Distribution mostly indicates that the rank average is between Gold and Plat, though that doesn't really indicate how great players will be.

Next to that, adding a punishment does not guarantee that players will be put in their proper rank, neither will you find better players due to said change.

My personal recommendation for you would be to group up into a premade, possibly by using an LFG system on the Apex discord, which doesn't take a lot of time.

@Dalepeople 

Sounds like a great idea and totally fair.

Lets do it right then.

Bronze player doing 0 dmg = -100 RP penalty

Silver player doing 0 dmg = -200 RP penalty

Gold player doing 0 dmg = -300 RP penalty

Plat player doing 0 dmg = -400 RP penalty

Diamond player doing 0 dmg = -500RP penalty

Master player doing 0 dmg = -600 RP penalty

Predator player doing 0 dmg = -700 RP penalty

and because such a thing never happens to you and it is your great idea if and when it happen to you -800 RP.

Really stuff happens and even the good players end up in a bad spot or get surprised and the penalty is they die and really that is enough. The skill gaps are wide and pitting plats vs vs preds would just screw that up even more, let alone Plats in Bronze lobbies. MM needs to be fixed and made fair. why should a gold player be stuck with two Bronze players on their team why should bronze players be playing VS gold or better players and golds should also never be playing with or against Diamonds.

Thanks for the tip.  As a casual gamer I try to keep things easy and would prefer to have rhe game manage matchmaking more effectively but your point is valid.  If you want to get to higher ranks you have to put in the work to find pre-made squads.

I'll assume your response is facetious given its conclusion.

"Really stuff happens and even the good players end up in a bad spot or get surprised and the penalty is they die and really that is enough."

- the error in this statement is that the penalty for bad plays is weighed equally across the whole team.  This allows players to take risks in ranked that they shouldn't take because the cost of doing so is spread across their team.  For pre-made teams, that actually makes sense. But for solo queue teams you end up socializing the point system, reducing the risk of bad plays for players that don't prioritize team play.  This makes it very difficult statistically for a solo queue player to properly compete in ranked.

But sure.  I'll take the 800 point hit if it helps the overall community fix the game.  Given how frequently this happens to me I'm willing to bet I'd end up further ahead anyhow.

@Dalepeople 

yes I was partially making some fun there. But really in all honesty the suggestion you made is not in anyway fair. 

If this is one of the woes of the solo Q'er things then I would suggest the best way to mitigate that and how matchmaking pairs you up with Randoms on your team, you should go out and find some standard squad-mates to play with. 

@DalepeopleI like the concept, but it needn't be so aggressive with -100RP lmao. If zero damage is happening, they may not be competitive enough for the rank ngl. Maybe they can lose the same RP that would have been given to the killer.

i would do it different, as long as your dmg differs substantially from your mates (like 500 to 50) you wont get those teampoints, because you contributed literally nothing.
It will not punish too hard, but you wont gain the easy points by just walking with the gang resulting in a very slow climb.
dmg points should also be rewarded  for reviving and respawning (only by enemy kill/knock, otherwise there will be abuse due to friendly nades/suicide).
i would even say that rev/spawns should bring you some form of RP, but that would be abused for sure ... either through friendly boost or ppl would just rat their mates out just to respawn them multiple times. so at least some dmg points seem fair to me