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7 years ago
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SKILL BASED MATCHMAKING PLEASE

I am new to this game and currently level 22 with a KDR of 1.01, which is steadily declining, and you are matching me with level 70+ players with thousands of kills. Do you want to alienate new players? we need time to develop our skill and dying in the first 5 mins of every game is not the way to do that. Please fix!!!!

  • There's definitely a matchmaking system in casual.

    Some time ago I created a smurf account to help a friend into diamond.

    Ranking the smurf account up to level 10 (so I could play ranked) was hilariously easy as most opponents were complete potatoes. For a time I was averaging 10 kills per match! ( On my main account it's around 2.5)

    I don't know if the casual matchmaker simply uses your account level, or maybe something more complex involving matches played, win rate, or K/D.

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  • So the skill based match making seems crazy broken in this game. I have gigabit internet with Comcast and granted it f***** sucks but all metrics/numbers say the game should be working flawless, low MS, 17 MS to St.Louis,  but shots don't register and looks like I get shot once or twice with Gold Shield and I go down instantly. It's bad, 19 out of 20 games its pretty much unplayable. I have had better results playing at friends and families houses so I realize its a little to do with the ISP but have no way of fixing this and if its pinging 17ms shouldn't the game be running flawless?

    So after losing game after game after game 1-2 kills tops and getting frustrated to the max. I get in a game and I drop into train yard by myself. I get 21 kills and 4500 damage WTF! clearly not a usual game. This one game works like butter registering every shot, seeing all the enemy shots when I do get shot I can get away quickly and counter. 21 KILLS 4500 DAMAGE! and these are not rookie players either that I am killing. Next 5 games after that, dead instantly, back to same ol BS! 6th game,11 Kills 3500 damage and game feels back on track, ever since that last game yesterday games feels broken again.  

    The only thing I can up with is not only is EA and Respawn are not only placing you with better players but the are also changing servers regardless of location or perhaps even slowing down your connect? What is going on with this game? Has to be the SBMM.  When it places me in region with decent connection I do ridiculously well. So well that it places me in servers hundreds of miles away with elite players and slows my connection that I am dying before I see the shot register.

    What ever it is, it is 100% broken.

    I have also ran a lot of tests with the NetDuma OS router and can show it connecting to servers in Dallas when I am in Chicago with St. Louis and Iowa selected. So basically pings St. Louis at game lobby 17ms. Then join a game and it actually connects you to a different region. 

  • 4ccbf460f7b926b's avatar
    4ccbf460f7b926b
    6 years ago
    @mastiffslinger SBMM is great in theory.
    What I've noticed though, is that if I'm in a full premade group of 3, it puts us against much tougher opponents. As if it groups by premade first, skill second.
    I am on PC though, where aim assist makes an even bigger impact on "skill". So lots of PC controller players can aim really well before they can move really well, or understand the game as well. This makes it hard to determine what kind of opponents I'm actually facing lately...
  • if they are level 70 with thousands of kills, they are either hacking or are smurfs. smurfs are taking over the game and breaking sbmm

  • Tbh the game is unplayable without skilled based matchmaking, me and my friends just started playing, we are level 40s getting matched with level 100s, 200s, etc. Today I got matched with a guy who already had around 1200 season 5 kills and 340 season 5 wins. I get bored just getting killed by 8k kill players or sometimes 12k kill players. Whenever I am in a match there is about 5 squads left in the final circle which is stupid considering it’s a normal match. Like I am trying to have some fun but I feel that the only ones who have fun in this game are high kill players. I can rarely even get a win, same with rank I thought I would get matched with people my skill and I get matched with people who have 1k or 2k kills. And if there is skilled based matchmaking the game must think I am a hell of a good player.

  • @FunkPeeps It's not because of SBMM, it's because there's hardly anyone playing apex anymore, I see multiple games with the same players. ALL the time.
  • There is sbmm, and sure it needs improvement but smurfing is also a huge problem so many people make new accounts so they can stomp new players and apex needs to do something about it.

  • Westhebird's avatar
    Westhebird
    6 years ago
    @DemonicTim Sbmm doesnt make the game unplayable it could use improvement but removing it would make everything worse
  • I'm a bronze-level noob with avg 150 lifetime dmg and 0.35 K/D ratio. I play with two of my friends with similar stats. We're really bad and we know it.

    We get these kind of players in our games. Yeah, three predators in the same squad.



    How is this skill-based or FAIR? Diamonds and preds are all over our games unless we tank our stats by dying immediately after landing over several games (which doesn't sound like working as intended...), but even one win and back to these clown games where we stand no chance whatsoever! Apparently it's unfair to these players that they don't get to slaughter an entire lobby before round 1 even finishes.

    I love this game and I'm a chill player but this kind of * makes me want to drop it entirely. I can't even get my dailies done because of * like this and dying right away. Respawn please, please do something about this, I'm * begging you. Let us play with other noobs and bad players.

  • Balladalidila's avatar
    Balladalidila
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    The major flaw with the current SBMM is that they match full premade squads of three predator-skilled players in the same lobby as squads consisting of three randoms.... It doesnt matter that there only are one such squad in the lobby; only to be a full premade squad is SO advantageous only from the fact that the squad will ALWAYS fight or die together with no early leavers, which as we all know is almost a guarantee in squads of random. 

    I think its not an unfair idea to put them into a separate queue, which would mean a very long queue time for them, most likely making it impossible for them to play premade in practice. What would make this "morally OK"  is because when 3 highly skilled players choose to  group together like that and play among randoms of all skills, they purposely circumvent the SBMM that is applied for everyone who is playing as a solo. I am a typical "3k dmg player" and I would be perfectly OK to be teamed with worse players than me (which I am 90% of my matches), knowing that my enemies also had this randomness of skill in their team. But to have to fight full squads of Predators, with a team of one lvl 50 and one with max a 2k dmg badge is just not a fair game.

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