SBMM is bad, but constantly running into smurfs and having bad teammates makes it so much worse, start banning smurfs and any accounts linked to the same device/ip of that smurf account, this won’t fix being queued with awful or even toxic teammates but i keep running into so many level 20 and under that have 4k damage badges, some with 20 kill badges, and its just part of the things ruining the experience of SBMM for me, start permanently banning to get the message clear, smurfing is NOT okNote: atleast send a message saying not to smurf or it will result in a bann in one of your messages as you log on, this way theres no excuse of not knowing and people have a choice use their main or get banned

I agree with you. Smurfing is ruining experience for new and casual players.

@FaIIenAngeI777 They are pathetic. Diamonds and Predators who cannot play against people with the same skills as theirs, hUh, patheticcccccc...Еveryone wants to be a strong player in Apex but when Apex put you against the same skilled players - OMG, SBMM IS SO BROKEN, I'LL MAKE A SMURF ACCOUNT I CAN'T PLAY ANYMORE. Low skilled bots that reached Diamond and Predator with camping and macro 🙂

@FaIIenAngeI777 Well, If you're an old player S1, S2 and etc..., then I think you have the skills to play against people with the same skill base. If you can't play against people with the same skill base as your, then why the heck you still playing Apex? So you want to farm low skilled players and feel like a GOD? What's the point of playing if you're in the same place? Most of us follow the game activity of all these "PRO APEX" streamers and we see them playing against people with the same skill base. None of them complained - Why I'm playing against good players?PS - 90% of these smurf accounts are low skilled Diamond level 4 players and Predators that stuck at 10.000 points forever. ( aka they will never WIN diamond or predator match).

@MonacoianSo you expect me to play against ShivFps-Gdolphin teaming up and farming points all day? While i am solo queing? Do you think this is enjoyable for me ? In Eu daytime i got killed by ShivFps team 9 times. Which was 1/2 of the games i played. Do you think it was a good experience to be farmed by these guys all day?I replied to a lot of sbmm topics with the data i gathered and sensible arguements but i understand that 0,6k/d people can not imagine wtf is going on with the sbmm in our world unless they are thrown into our lobbies

@NikJSt So you are Diamond and you made a new account to help your friends reach Diamond too. That's nice but what will happen when your friends reach Diamond 4? You will have to go back to your main account and you guys will play only basic matches because ranked will be too hard for 3 pseudo Diamonds to play with real Diamonds and Predators, right? 🙂

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FaIIenAngeI777
6 years ago
@SombrePerdition ‘’Just because someone who wrecked your face seems overly good dosn’t mean they are a smurf’’ there literally level 1-20s with 3-4k damage badges and some with 20 kill badges i think its safe to say they are smurfing
NikJSt
6 years ago
@Monacoian Did i say i made a smurf to carry their * or i said to play with them cuz casual its harder than ranked? Read first ok?
If they can reach to Diamond, its maybe cuz they are skilled enough to reach Diamond, i am not pro player to carry 2 golds to Diamond rank.
If Casual actually had SBMM, iam sure there will be less people smurfing.
Babbediboopi
6 years ago
Random matchmaking in casual and minimum required level of 50-60 for ranked would literally remove all incentives to smurf. Everything * we see now in the game, like bad Plat4 players who's real skill is more suited to low gold, and highly skilled smurfs in bronze or silver, happen because of Respawns way of designing this game.
Monacoian
6 years ago
@NikJSt Pseudo Diamond alert 🙂 " I know smurfing is bad, iam diamond, i made a new account to play with my friends ( silvers and golds ). "

So you "The great Diamond player" made a new account "NOT TO CARRY YOUR FRIENDS", just to play with them and they are - ( silver-gold ), I'm Diamond too and I'm playing basic matches with two friends (bronze 4 - 120 lv and bronze 4 - 201 level) and we are playing against normal players so don't go out with this - " Because I'm Diamond we're in lobby with Diamonds". PSEUDO DIAMOND.
RwFinfrock
6 years ago
Smurfing is the communities response to SBMM.
Its not a proud thing to do but a necessary one after wairing for SBMM to get fixed with no changes.
Side note
how could u establish the difference between someone who is a smurf and someone who is new the game but naturally good?
VoKks9
6 years ago
@FaIIenAngeI777 Could never happen, It would be impossible to ban an account on the allegation it's a smurf. Someone could say it's their brother's account because they have one PC between them, and I'm sure there genuinely are people who do have to share with family members so it's nice for them to have their account too.

Smurfing is only here due to the really bad SBMM system which isn't putting players into an equal playing field, It's putting players like myself into games where 9 times out of ten there are pre-made squads twice the skill level.

I don't agree with smurfing, and will never do it myself, but I understand and am sympathetic as to why people do it.

There's no way Respawn can prove any second account is to smurf as there's plenty of valid reasons for more than one account on the same PC. They can never fairly ban an account, so as long as SBMM stays the way it is, so will smurfing.

Guess we all gotta get used to it 🙂
Kimsey02
6 years ago
I think smurfing is totally acceptable with the current state of "SBMM".
Even feels like its more balanced with the amount of smurfs, you get to fight newbies and (good) smurfs.
FaIIenAngeI777
6 years ago
@VoKks9 I understand the family excuse, because I thought of that myself some may want to share a pc, but lets be real if someone gets high tier badges when they just started the game they should be flagged as a smurf because idc how good someone maybe at other fps games its kinda hard to do if they are actually a new apex legends player because they have to learn the controls, legends abilitys, hitboxes, etc
FaIIenAngeI777
6 years ago
@Monacoian @NikJSt has a valid point, with the current SBMM those higher skilled players are unable to play with lower skilled players because they would have to 1 v 3 every single fight against players there level or better if they are carrying lower skilled friends every game, but I still think smurfing should not be allowed, ive mainly been seeing smurfs in casual, but if the smurfs are in ranked mode aswell it creatives a unfair ranked enviroment through the lower ranks until they get promoted enough, im a main but I am kinda in a smurfs situation in ranked mode because Ive never really played rank mode I farmed til gold in season 2 but im still in silver from the demotion I did a ranked match and obliverated everyone in the final 3 lol, but this is the point Im trying to say if your a higher skilled player in lower ranked matches its unfair for all the other players, its similiar to the same issue as plat/diamonds are unable to reach predator because they are being stopped by predators but on a lower scale they are being stopped by smurfs mixed in with their skill level opponents
FaIIenAngeI777
6 years ago
@BabbediboopiI do want to see random match making again, Idk wth one of the last matches was that I played though but it Literally put Neenie on my team... Neenies a badass predator wraith with 400 wins and can solo pretty much every squad (i spectated him when he killed me about a month ago and he won solo) I dont understand why it put him on my team though if Im no wheres close to his skill level... almost felt like SBMM didnt exist lol maybe this is why I was on a major losing streak because I got promoted somewhere I didnt belong like a month ago, idk but the match didnt seem that bad until literally 3rd partied from every direction... we were in the middle of 5 squads so naturally me and my teammate got wrecked but Neenie stayed strong lol

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