I know they already made the circle come in quicker, but it still feels too slow.valorant games can take an hour, yet i feel less bored playing it, since rounds last minutes and you always need to be doing something to win, but as a gold player in apex, this is how games go for me:1. My squad dies on drop.2. My teammates are lobotomites, so they impatiently rush into battle with zero communication and get themselves killed one by one and now i have to hope there's a support player on my team so i can hopefully craft their banner and respawn them, and hope that they don't rush and die again. (My team rushed and died after i respawned them)3. They rush and die and i can't respawn them, so now I'm stuck sneaking around the map to get placement rp or try to third-party the last team, which is supremely boring camping, or running for my life from other teams trying to kill me.4. I have a good team and have a good match, even if we lose. As apex players, i think we can all say that scenarios 1, 2, and 3 are usually what happens in low ranks.If we want apex to be nearly as fulfilling as longer FPS games like val or cs, i think games need to be faster because of how many bad games we usually get, due to the nature of battle royale. Ring durations need to be shorter, ring close times need to be even shorter and I think we should make the storm hurt even more too. This all should make teams rotate faster, be warier of time, and cause more fights to break out from people trying to get to places and will punish people harder for being caught in the first storm level.

@BETELX6Walking across King's takes seven minutes. Assuming you don't meet any enemies in a bad or bottlenecked place, have to go through multiple POIs, or that your squadmates won't sabotage you by insisting on a fight they can't win in the spot farthest from the next circle. You now also have the possibility of enemies on every side, not just in front of you. Did I say "possibility?" I meant "probability." Oh, and add however much time you might need for looting. Unless your loot just lays itself out on your path. I can loot that way, but my squadmates never can. They either hit one building and then rush to a fight, or they hit every single bin they know of even if it means getting singed by the ring and coming into the circle in the middle of a four squad pile up.I get it. You like a fast paced game. And I think an argument could be made in their favor if you were only talking about higher skilled lobbies. But none of these propositions are an over-exaggeration. You may or may not recall the faster ring timers of season... 14? But they were fast. I can't recall if we got to your target time of 15 minutes, but if not it was very close. People were quitting matches left and right based on nothing more than their drop plus the first ring. It was never that you couldn't make it. It was that you had to go through two engagements on the way with no time to loot as you sprinted across the map. It was pointless. I don't mind getting beat by a guy who has a positional advantage or better aim, but getting beat because I can't engage because I have two place-holder weapons and NO ammunition? That was why people quit. That was why the dev backed off the whole idea.

@BETELX6 If you feel 14+ minutes is too long, then this isn't the game you want to play.Generally speaking, a video game can only cater to a few emotive aesthetics, perhaps 4 or 5 at best. BR is a natural for exploration, which by its very nature is best left to lengthier periods of play.

Nopethe game mechanics are fine as isdrop with the largest group of squads and you’ll have all the fun and excitement you could ever want.on BM, I like to drop in the center where I can expect immediate engagement. This is often better than looting and running only to engage when I am not expecting to. Either we live to feast on our prizes or we go back into the queue for another match. But it certainly isn’t slow.

Well if you want to play the game like it were chess, then why are you complaining?

@BETELX6Sorry, have to agree with the others. There are already plenty of faster games out there, including those you named, and this one has already been sped up over the years. The average br match used to hit 20 or even 21 minutes on the timer. Now they barely get to 18.And the 18 minutes is already barely enough to loot, hit your evo harvesters (if you're that kind of player), and make your position, especially if you're an edge dropper. In fact I would argue that every major change of the last few seasons (evo only shields, shorter timer, higher damage late rings, ever thinning loot, even the design of the new map) are all part of a larger move to make you feel subjectively as if you are always on the run, always in danger, and don't have the time you might like to prepare yourself for the endgame. I would say that they are trying everything they can think of to accommodate players who want a faster game.

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MrGreenWithAGun
Rising Ace
2 years ago
Nope
the game mechanics are fine as is
drop with the largest group of squads and you’ll have all the fun and excitement you could ever want.
on BM, I like to drop in the center where I can expect immediate engagement. This is often better than looting and running only to engage when I am not expecting to. Either we live to feast on our prizes or we go back into the queue for another match. But it certainly isn’t slow.
BETELX6
2 years ago
I don't think we're the same type of apex player. I've played for years and only play ranked, and hot-dropping is not how to win or score rp, it's just asking for an early menu screen.
You can't play like that when every match has an rp cost to play, so how you play will overall make you waste away your rank, but it seems you're a casual player who's there to go crazy with friends, and power to you if enjoy apex like that, but that's not how ranked players play.
MrGreenWithAGun
Rising Ace
2 years ago
Well if you want to play the game like it were chess, then why are you complaining?
ComicBookGuy2727
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
I cant say I've really heard much of ppl requesting shorter games - usually the other way around. Most complain the game ends to quickly. I feel a BR should be longer than say a TDM. I don't play ranked much if at all, but I would guess the most serious players and ones that are out to win and not just stack kills play ranked. That would tell me, most are playing more cautious, making smarter decisions and choosing their battles more carefully. I thought that style would more work out to prolonging matches.
I play Pubs as a casual and find most matches are over before you can do much.
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@BETELX6

Sorry, have to agree with the others. There are already plenty of faster games out there, including those you named, and this one has already been sped up over the years. The average br match used to hit 20 or even 21 minutes on the timer. Now they barely get to 18.

And the 18 minutes is already barely enough to loot, hit your evo harvesters (if you're that kind of player), and make your position, especially if you're an edge dropper. In fact I would argue that every major change of the last few seasons (evo only shields, shorter timer, higher damage late rings, ever thinning loot, even the design of the new map) are all part of a larger move to make you feel subjectively as if you are always on the run, always in danger, and don't have the time you might like to prepare yourself for the endgame. I would say that they are trying everything they can think of to accommodate players who want a faster game.
BETELX6
2 years ago
@MrGreenWithAGun I never said it should be like chess, i said the oppisite. BR can't be like chess because there's too many random variables and because of that, i think these games need to be even faster to cut out long segments of camping or running around. I'm honestly disapointed that Arena was removed, because it was more strategic and entertaining then BR, but i would rather play BR if it was faster
BETELX6
2 years ago
@ComicBookGuy2727 I don't think BR should be as short as COD matches but in Apex BRs current state, i'm either too bored or frustrated that my whole teams dead and now im running around and hiding trying to get placement points. At this point i enjoy Val more because it forces you to act more and play smarter despite the games possibly lasting an hour, but Vals rounds are short and camping and attacking feels more balanced. Along with quick kill times that forces people to not run in and die as much, unlike Apex.
Apex is still my favorite game, but for me it's just not fullfillng competitely from how long it takes a game to end in a game about randomness and scoring points from kills and placement. If luck is a big factor in these games, as it is with the quality of teamates and 3rd parties, etc, I dont think these games should last past 14 minutes.
BETELX6
2 years ago
@reconzero 18 minutes is barely enough to get loot and evo harvestors? I have to disagree with that
With 18 minutes you have time to waste on camping and wandering, as is my expirience.
I don't dont games should go past 14-15 minutes, especially when you're playing for points and your team ends up killing themselves or you get 3rd partied.
MrGreenWithAGun
Rising Ace
2 years ago
@BETELX6
If you feel 14+ minutes is too long, then this isn't the game you want to play.
Generally speaking, a video game can only cater to a few emotive aesthetics, perhaps 4 or 5 at best. BR is a natural for exploration, which by its very nature is best left to lengthier periods of play.
BETELX6
2 years ago
@MrGreenWithAGun You can definitely get good loot in that duration, especially with the loot box resets. As i've said, i love this game's concept and started playing in season zero. The current speed leaves to much room for camping, wandering, 3rd parties, and suffering garbage competitive teammates who kill themselves because they're too impatient to play carefully and strive for points.
This game is currently better causally but competitively, tactical shooters are better.