This Is Not "Call Of Duty", Make It "More Tactical", Less "Run & Gun"

well the kind of "tactical" game you want is a game in the style of the old rainbow six titles.

this sort of games have dried out. people nowadays want fast paced (in terms of movement) shooters like warframe, apex, CoD (only the new titles) and (maybe?) fortnite.

not sure about fortnite, since i barely played it, since the whole building thing is not my kind of thing.

this is a free to play game that needs to attract a lot of people, if it were a slow paced tactical shooter, it would end up a niche game, which kills a f2p game.

you have valid points, but unfortunatelly the time of slow paced tactical shooters (that attract lot's of people) is gone and therefore apex will never be one (in my opinion). 

thanks for the reply, but i think you missed my message...

I am totally ok with the fast paced nature of Apex Legends, in fact i tested and found that

as long as <100ms of ping, it is still playable properly....

what i have an issue with is the actual game mechanics involved, such as the "rescue mechanic" i mentioned in the original post

as well as the grenades not having a "fuze time" mechanic, also the acceleration physics that isn't realistic, or even equal amoungst the characters...

Basically if a game has skills and grenades, shouldn't there be a viable way to use those other damage dealing mechanics?

currently any high speed character can literally out run any grenade or damage ultimate with no issue, that makes it totally unfair,

cos the only people who can win are those who are very accurate at shooting or aimbots...

In fact the fast speed is a plus, but there should be rewards for people who can think fast on their feet,

for example if you engage with an enemy who in the 1st couple of bullets, you notice is more accurate than you in shooting,

then you can still win via other alternative tactics other than shooting (such as grenades or character skills...)

currently that is totally impossible !!!!

[another ridiculous issue is the sound range for healing items, there is literally no way to heal without being found if you are playing with an experienced

player, also the sound lasts for the entire duration of the heal, not just the initial usage, that literally makes it worse than any of the character gadgets....]

THE WORST ONE IS MEDIC-LIFELINE's HEAL BOT, OMG THAT NOISE, EVERYONE FROM HALF THE MAP CAN HEAR HER HEALING, SERIOUSLY ???

thanks for the reply, but i think you missed my message...

I am totally ok with the fast paced nature of Apex Legends, in fact i tested and found that

as long as >100ms of ping, it is still playable properly....

what i have an issue with is the actual game mechanics involved, such as the "rescue mechanic" i mentioned in the original post

as well as the grenades not having a "fuze time" mechanic, also the acceleration physics that isn't realistic, or even equal amoungst the characters...

Basically if a game has skills and grenades, shouldn't there be a viable way to use those other damage dealing mechanics?

currently any high speed character can literally out run any grenade or damage ultimate with no issue, that makes it totally unfair,

cos the only people who can win are those who are very accurate at shooting or aimbots...

In fact the fast speed is a plus, but there should be rewards for people who can think fast on their feet,

for example if you engage with an enemy who in the 1st couple of bullets, you notice is more accurate than you in shooting,

then you can still win via other alternative tactics other than shooting (such as grenades or character skills...)

currently that is totally impossible !!!!

[another ridiculous issue is the sound range for healing items, there is literally no way to heal without being found if you are playing with an experienced

player, also the sound lasts for the entire duration of the heal, not just the initial usage, that literally makes it worse than any of the character gadgets....]

THE WORST ONE IS MEDIC-LIFELINE's HEAL BOT, OMG THAT NOISE, EVERYONE FROM HALF THE MAP CAN HEAR HER HEALING, SERIOUSLY ???

sigh.... you misunderstand too...

i don't want run and gun play....

i want more mechanics to encourage more possibilities of tactical use of all ways of winning, not just point-&-click...

No you are correct sir; this isnt Call of Duty (how observant of you), this game isnt Pubg, Fortnite, Rainbow Six, CS, or Overwatch either, it is Apex, a NEW Battle royal game with its own style.

Suggestions and opinions on the game is one thing, but if I interpret you correctly, you are basically suggestion that Apex should be another game. Your post is equivalent to walking in to a Pizza hut and complain "These arent Hamburgers, make your food more like hamburgers" haha.

The mechanics are there for tactical play, it's not respawns fault you aren't using them. there is more than one way to play this game, it is not respawns fault you aren't using them.  

You absolutely can take out fast characters with grenades you just aren't using them tactically. In order for them to be effective you need to be in choke points or buildings not open fields. ANY character can outrun a grenade in an open field. Could they implement a fuse mechanic? sure but then it would make it MORE like CoD and you complaint was it shouldn't be like CoD 

Max movement speed so high? Say wah? 🤔 This game is slow af compared to what I'm used to; Quake, Unreal, Titanfall, Team Fortress 2, Overwatch, Paladins etc.

I think what you really want to play is Battlefield, they just released a BR mode, maybe try that game. This game is not for you if you think this game is too fast.

There are plenty of tactics in this game, the crazy plays you can pull off with all these abilities is endless.

PS: If you haven't managed to kill people with grenades yet, then you really haven't played the game enough, just the fact that you think Gebraltar runs slower than other characters shows your lack of knowledge for the game.

What do you mean you can't outplay someone with better aim? Pick up a threat scope, shoot a smoke grenade at them their aim is gone. Drop a portal when they're chasing you, run through said portal two or three times to confuse your enemy then wait at the other side, and shoot them in the back when they go through. Drop a launch pad to get on top of a building and just spam grenades at them until their dead. These are just some of the tactics I've used, the game has only been out for like a month, people are still learning the game. I have lost count of the amount of times I've been outplayed and duked by clever players that pull off some crazy * that I wasn't expecting.

No rescue mechanic? You do know that downed players can move through portals right? I've saved many lives by dropping a portal mid fight from a safe place to my downed enemy. Downed players can also use launch pads. And I can't be the only person that revives team mates whilst covering the area in smoke, even mid fight, it works try it. I'm sure they will add even more "rescue mechanics" with newer characters. 

And if you think that the first squad to down an enemy wins the fight, you're just plain wrong. Even I have wiped a squad 1 v 3 when BOTH my team mates were down and I am trash at this game (at least that's what my random team mates keep telling me).

No offence man, but your whole post is just full of so much facepalm. You should really play the game more and learn what's possible, look outside the box.

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@LuckyCanuckLuke wrote:

ANY character can outrun a grenade in an open field. 

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Not if you spam grenades and arc stars in every single direction they can run.  The amount of grenades you can spam is ridiculous. I can't believe these haven't been nerfed yet. I'm still puzzled as to why most of my randoms never pick up grenades. IMO if you're not picking up every arc star and grenade you can carry, you are playing the game wrong. I carry more grenades/stars than ammo stacks. I'll even sometimes drop shield cells and syringes to carry more.

if you are carrying that many grenades you have less ammo, shield cells, medkits etc