5 years ago

Tired of seeing wraith getting nerfed EVERY SEASON.

Yes legends need balancing from time to time, yes some are OP, but 6 seasons and STILL nerfing? Why not just delete wraith at this point, I'm so goddamn sick to death of seeing "wraith has been nerfed" one every single season patch. I can't wait to play wraith next season to realise her animation is buggy as hell and it destroys any hope of the smoothness she once had when using her AND THEN WAIT for a patch at the start of SEASON 8. I know for a FACT people will still cry when this animation update has been applied because NOBODY will be happy with her changes and will STILL want more updates to destroy the core character because they can't seem to aim for the life of them.

Why hasn't pathfinders broken hitbox been fixed yet? THAT still has issues, and yet still hasn't been addressed

Why hasn't gibby's unlimited amount of HP pool been nerfed yet?

Why hasn't lifelines unlimited shield revive been nerfed yet?

Why hasn't octanes + pathfinders footsteps sound fx been buffed yet?

Why haven't parts of the map where you get stuck on NOTHING been addressed yet?

Why hasn't parts of rooftops where it forces you inside the building when you activate climb been fixed yet?

Why hasn't bloodhounds scanning disconnect issues been resolved yet?

Code net? Code leaf? Crashing randomly? Lagging? Latency issues? Frame rate drops?

SOOOO MANY GODDAMN ISSUES and you decide to nerf wraith AGAIN? Get your act together already. IT DOES NOT TAKE 90 DAYS TO NERF A BUNCH OF THINGS WHICH HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE SEASON 1. Either fix this game or it will go straight down into the garbage books along with other games where devs have already killed their game off.

Why not go the full mile and change all ammo sizes to 15 per stack; 1 explosive ordnance overall per person, destroy ALL the popular locations around the map AGAIN and reduce it to rubble and reduce the amount of loot on the map as well while you're at it. Fortnite was successful because there was nothing else to play at the time, then apex and a bunch of other games came along, players quit, soon as the PS5 releases and a bunch of other online games Apex will see the exact same punishment.

This is just clear proof Respawn only care about money and could care less about the healthiness of this game, else bugs which have been plaguing this game would have been squashed out months ago, this game would cater to long time players and not new players where Respawn are just waiting for a cash grab before they quit.

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E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@MoNosDirtyGaming I am sick of it as well. Mean while wraiths Q despite being spammed by my little ole pinky 30 times and wont go into phase. Or it will completely cancel it self out of no where.

2 times today ive died to my Q just canceling it self out no where. Doing nothing different ive not done from season 1 to now. Something this season keeps disabling phases and im getting pissed.

Staff says they dont want people to not want play her well you sure didnt help this case any. All it was players who cant out play her crying how strong she was because they cant possess the skills to even kill her.

So lets punish wraith mains because players skill levels cant kill her. Lets nerf wraith because wraith mains know how to properly play her in team scenario and solo. Lets nerf wraith because players cant learn their legend better to over come wraith.

How is it us wraith mains have zero problems killing another wraith? Are we the only ones able to kill our own? Or staff maybe...... We know how we would perform on her and predict how others will also play her. Others who are not good on wraith of course can not counter her or predict what you would do in that situation as a wraith.

First the phase timer nerf then the hand animation now this bull crap. They are listening to players? Not the wraith mains who tell them their changes are really put a dent in her abilities.

Instead listen to those who cry because they cant kill her yet we can kill wraiths just fine without issues. But i guess this isnt taken into account with the MAJOR CHANGES. What reduction time do we get?

You just completely unbalanced the travel legends. Now we got path who can take baby grapples with small recast timers. You honestly think for one second that path mains will not baby grapple so the cool down wont be long? They sure will exploit this change to the fullest. Why grapple absolutely furthest obtainable when you can baby grapple in that time for more grapple plays. Where is our reduction ability?

You changed path grapple and wraith phase same exact nerf path. Yet path is not nearly returning to normal in a aspect. Mean while wraith still remains with her timer and hand animation huge timers.

Wraith was already hit hard with the simple hand animation being added. That was huge in her tactical game play. We adapted to this staff.... Yet you just hit us hard again. And wanna actually call it a balance change?

This is why I tell every company if your staff does not play this game then you have ZERO idea what your doing or changing.
PandaBandit1337
5 years ago
Don't Forget wraith's broken hitbox * well, that is why everyone plays her, she is the hardest char to hit and feel like her hitbox is as broken as pathfinder.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@PandaBandit1337 But us wraiths can take other wraiths out just as we do any other legend. How can this be explained? Same logic applies. Just cause we both wraith dont mean we bypass the hitbox. lol
matzesingt
5 years ago
Maybe they finally nerf her hitbox then they can revert the other changes np
matzesingt
5 years ago
@E9ine_AC since you both have the same hitbox its equal but its not when playing a different legend 😉
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@matzesingt Yes but if we can hit the wraith why cant other legends hit the wraith? Just today multiple times did i wingman a wraiths head and kill her from a good 50 meters. If we can hit her no reason others cant. If i can be hit from 200 meters away easily then is it really broken? If i can be head shot up close and personal with multiple head shots being seen on death feed is it really that broken?

Sure there are few things that may be off but point of my post is if we can kill wraith no reason non wraiths couldnt kill a wraith.

Fix her hitbox revert all changes id be highly up for.
Balladalidila
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
Just curious; are you tired of seeing Wraith getting nerfed because
1) you think she now is actually is too weak to be played
2) because she is went from OP and is now more on par with the other legends balance wise, and you just are mad about it?
Because as a Pathfinder main since S1, I was "sad" when they nerfed him but objectively, I really saw the reasons why the nerf and honestly saw it coming. Pathfinder was, together with Wraith, the only legends that actually had an tactical that gave them a free get out of jail card. Both Path and Wraith could charge in, do alot of damage while taking alot of damage, and as long as they had a supporting team arriving short after, they could just use their Q to get themselves to safety, heal up and return and finish off the remaining enemies.
Bottom line is that Respawn clearly dont want this kind of legend design and it just makes sense that they re-balance the legends away from this. Wraith ULT is still super good for the team and her hitbox is probably the most difficult to hit, especially early game if you ask me. A crouch-strafe-crouch-strafe Wraith against you with an iron sight makes the weapon model cover 80% of the Wraith-model most of the time....
And in my experience, people play her ALOT, probably has been and still is the consistently most played Legend. So its kinda hard to argue about her being too weak.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@BalladalidilaHonestly for me I still can do anything ive done from the start. I have had to adapt many many times now to her changes. I am tired of adapting every single season to major changes.

While I can understand why some of the changes was made they just keep hitting us with curve balls every season. While some legends never get touched despite how strong they are.

While im not saying that other legends can compare to wraith and path abilities some actually can. Not in terms of getting away but in terms of brutal slaughter abilities. Like gibby ult near instant damage to a radius. Causetic gas traps stacked with ult.

Point i make above though is all legends have their very strong suites and their weak ones. We keep getting weaker and having to adapt. While some strong battle legends remain the same.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
I am also not sure about this people play her a lot thing. I solo que up to 15 hours a day. Maybe today I had 2 people actually want wraith out of my 12 hours today and counting. This would literally come into terms that 2% of my games today in 12 hours was players wanting wraith.
Balladalidila
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@E9ine_AC
Same goes for Lifeline and Pathfinder right? Lifeline mains can no longer rely on popping super fast shield cells between fire exchanges and had to re-adjust the play style.
Pathfinder cant rely on having a grapple into battle and one just ready again to get himself out of battle; he has to tactically choose when and where to grapple.
But the reason for these changes is exactly the same as for Wraith. Before; Lifeline, Pathfinder and Wraith was the ABSOLUTE most picked legends in the game, both among pros and in pubs. I think Wraith actually had 33.3% pick rate in Pro-matches, i.e one Wraith in EVERY single pro squad. And you cant argue against that kind of statistics; that objectively means that these legends are the strongest in the current meta.
Yeah, some legends has more combat related abilities, like Ramparts, Gibby, Caustics ult, but that is really not the point? The only important question is if Wraith now is nerfed to the point of being useless, which I nor the statistics can say she is. On the contrary, I think she still is one of the most popular Legends but not as OP as before, and super important for the team if you play high ranked or pro.