Forum Discussion

Turtle15856's avatar
2 years ago

30-30 and burst meta

I am beyond sick of this meta. It is beyond annoying to play. We all knows the devs have this meta because they are easy guns for new players to use and apex has been in a horrible spot for many seasons now. Anything to keep new players coming in I guess. As a player that started in season 13 to what this game has become today its depressing. All this game has ever been is 3rd parties and for those 3rd parties to all be using a hemlock or a nemesis or 3030 is beyond the cherry on top. Why cant we get passed this meta? Why is it that this game has become all long range like im playing warzone. Just ranting because I dont know how much more I can take. Its beyond stale just getting in a game getting good loot then dying to a team that breaks your entire teams shield from 100 meters out then are all on top of you in 2 seconds with your teams backs against the wall. At least when it was r301 you stood a chance and had a lot more options in terms of running away, because good luck you cant do that anymore or else youll get 3030 or burst from across the map. 

5 Replies

  • csj711's avatar
    csj711
    New Vanguard
    2 years ago

    @Turtle15856Honestly, this game needs to do various updates in a shorter cycle than it is now.

    Gun meta should be circulated through buffs of several unpopular weapons, such as LMG other than L-star, pistols other than Wingman, G7 and R-301, and the nerfs of powerful weapons such as hemlock, Nemesis, and 3030, but the game has a frustratingly long cycle of these nerfs and buffs.

    The same goes for Legend's balance. Horizon, Catalyst, Bangalore Meta Still Continues.
    Legends that are far from meta, such as Vantage, Ash, and Ballistic, need buffs.

    EA and Respawn need to resolve these issues faster and more reliably.

  • @Turtle15856The gun balancing rotates, the Hemlok was a somewhat poor weapon before, now it is better. The players also see what works and changes go both ways. Players using more cover means high damage single shot weapons (for peaking) works well.
    Then when you get close the smgs or other full auto are great.

    I've been using the Hemlok and G7 along with PK, mozam or some smg (mostly the CAR) to cover both long and short range.
    Granted having an R301 or Flatline is much better for those close range fights, it is all what you make it. Some legends fair better with some guns as their mobility lends to getting in close, while others lack that option.

  • I understand that, still does not take away that this meta is the sweatiest its ever been. The hemlock and nemesis are still unreal at hipfire. They are hands down the best when it comes to long range fights and close range. At least when it was the r301 you still had to track really well, with these burst guns its a hell of a lot easier for anyone to hit more shots consistently, just tired of every player I come up against hitting almost every shot and dying in 4 bursts. A lot less annoying to die to an r3 or flatline, hell any other gun. Just miss the days when shield actually felt like shield and 90% of it wouldnt be taken away in 1 and a half bursts. They are the most unrewarding guns to use because you know that it doesnt take much skill cause you barely had to track. That was the magic of this game for me. But I guess the devs have their hands tied.

  • Completely agree, would just be a nightmare for devs, and a large part of the player base that are casuals wouldnt be able to keep up. Might be doable if Respawn actually understood communication to its player base. 

  • DrWizardo's avatar
    DrWizardo
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Turtle15856 I disagree with the skill take, the spray weapons on longer ranges does require you to aim well. But up close the burst weapons means that if you missed one burst there are a lot of shots wasted.
    I tend to use single fire on the Hemlok for any medium to long range engagements and only occationally use the burst.

    I think matchmaking also has a lot to do with how the games play out. Sometimes I've been doing far better than previous seasons, and them -boom- I just have 0 chance because the players you face are insane.

    The Nemesis is a weird gun with the speed up function, it sort of negates the burstyness and the missing shots vs spray. But it isn't the same long range menace it was before.

About Apex Legends General Discussion

Discuss the latest news and game information around Apex Legends in the community forums.31,273 PostsLatest Activity: 4 hours ago