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@hayhor people with limited time to play / people who are working on multiple BPs outside of Apex will almost certainly grind OBJs first then play for fun later. Moreso now since you need to grind out the OBJs in order to complete pass in a reasonable amount of time, whereas old system with the scaling levels 5 hours worth of play (not in one sitting obviously) through time alone would get you 3 BP levels, whereas the new system gets you only one.
Plus if you've grown disenchanted with playing through crappy hit-reg / audio / SBMM / net-code / server stability / quality of teammate like I have, playing the game is no longer fun, it's more of a chore. The BP changes were just a cheap gimmick to try and bolster / manipulate player retention data by forcing players to spend the same if not more time playing, just spread out over the course of the week.
Think of it in terms of line-plots. Big spikes in player retention doesn't look good to investors / shareholders, it means your consumer-base is unstable, they're not interested / entertained enough to keep consistently playing. New BP changes fix that by ironing out big spikes into a flatter more consistent plot, giving the illusion that things are going well.
- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+
@pastaclownThe game devs didn't choose for players to work on other game's battle passes. Nor should it be a concern to them. Giving this game at hand it self and its leveling system it is 100% obtainable with ease. The game should not cater to other game's battle passes.
Other games battle passes mean nothing to this game's time frame of leveling this games battle pass it's on the player to make a choice of which they want to be leveled.
- 5 years ago
@E9ine_AC ah yes, the stunning stellar point of, "Let's design the BP without any regards to the consumer, they shouldn't be playing other games anyway."
Congrats! Apparently you were completely fine with S7's initial BP changes, not the reverted ones.
- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+@pastaclown The game does care about the player on their game. Why should they cater their battle pass to ensure players can do other games battle passes?
This is of zero concern nor care to them. They provide a game and its system it should not cater to a player who wishes to play multiple games and multiple battle passes. I am not sure how you can even come up with a argument to back your claims up.
Players asking for extensions so they can finish a battle pass is like going to fortnite devs and saying hey can we ummm like extended the time frame of this so I can finish my apex battle pass? No they going to laugh in your face. Because their system is not designed around catering to another games system. - hayhor5 years agoHero@pastaclown They dont care that people are trying to level other passes. Well they do, they dont want you to leave the game so they try and get you more engaged. It isnt dumb, its intelligent.
Can I ask you a question- Why do you care about the battle pass? What is in it that is worth the trouble, especially if the game is not worthwhile for you? - 5 years ago
@hayhor like @JonStriker126 said, it's the crafting metals, everything else is extra. The R99 skin is nice, but truthfully unimportant compared to the long-term investment of crafting mats.
If you played S2 and bought S2 pass, that's 10 bucks for 1200 metal. Every season after you got 1200 metals too. 2-7 is 5 seasons for 10 dollars for 6000 crafting metals total (I'm sitting at 4.7k) which saves you money on event exclusive skins should you want one.
Plus I'm still sitting around waiting for beneficial changes to pop up. There's nothing else to do except grind out achievements for Cyberpunk, but that's not 100% what I want to do with my time. Genuinely waiting for something to come out that I can sink time into, aside from Apex. Engaging challenges aside, the thing they should've focused on should they want more engagement from players, is having a fun, functional game. Not 7 seasons of poorly functioning audio / hit-reg / net-code / server stability / etc. etc. Fun is subjective, but functional is not.
- hayhor5 years agoHero@pastaclown and @JonStriker126 thanks. I guess I actually buy them for the same reason. Most items in the passes I dont use.
- 5 years ago
@hayhor course you wouldn't use most of them, for the most part it's just crappy stat-trackers and really bad re-colors of the default weapon. Blegh.
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