Blue boys and girls

Anyone else notice there’s always that one squad in pubs during late game with 3 snipers with 3 blue shields. I assume these squads drop at the edge of the map, loot for 20mins only for them to get ran over by the squad with 3 red armors.

Don’t be a blue boy. You won’t win or get better by playing too cautiously in pubs. The key to pubs is to not drop too hot nor too far away. This advice obviously does not apply to rank. Keep running, there multiple legends that can outrun and chase you. Keep hiding, there are two legends that has literally wall hacks and will spot you.

discussion

hayhor
4 years ago
@Cheese9Man and @reconzero both make valid points. Just yesterday, playing with a friend we finished off the 3rd place team and then had to go hunt for the last squad. I said to my friend, I bet these guys are all setup in zone just waiting and sure enough they were. As we approached my friend shot one and goes "one has white shields". We laughed and then quickly wiped the whole team. No one had better than blue, all had snipers and no idea what to do when we just went at them from different angles. It was like we were the pred team that usually just walks though us.

I do want to address 2 items though-
"IT'S JUST PUBS" - This mentality is so cringe worthy and when people say it they come off as better than others. The only difference between pubs play and ranked is they give you points that do not actually mean anything to anyone. Game companies have discovered that instead of giving you meaningful things to enjoy and grind towards, they can use the idea of "competitive play" and de-ranking to keep people coming back. Think about this- What do you really get for all that time ranking? It isn't like you earn a living, get paid or get anything of any use for it. That push you make in pubs but won't make in ranked is bad no matter when you do it.

Getting better- I agree with cheeseman in that if you never play aggressively, you will never improve your fighting and pressured looting. I also agree with recon that everyone will eventually hit a wall where they struggle to get better.

I know it is kinda cringe to quote a streamer but most think the same way as Nick says in this video. For those that do not know, he moved from Warzone to Apex due to the cheating in Warzone so he was way behind the curve in skill. He spent months in Masters lobbies dropping contested, continuously fighting to improve his skill. Having watched the progression it was pretty impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUma5Q3b-_w

18 Replies

hayhor
Hero
4 years ago
@swift07 I believe people are born with traits that make them better than others at certain things. There's a whole nature vs nurture debate here.
swift07
4 years ago
@hayhor that doesn't limit people. There's people who have put time into things that they are naturally not good at and have succeeded. We can go back and forth but my statement still stands, you can always improve.
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@swift07

"how are you going to argue and say perceived, when lobbies are made up of different types of players and how they are played is different?"

What I meant was that players may play pubs differently than ranked because they feel there is less at stake, but the game is the same, the rules are the same, the object of the game is the same. Unless you're making the argument that the goal of a ranked match isn't to win but to gain rp, which is true. Which, imo, makes ranked even more pointless than it already is, and a distortion of what the game should be about - which is winning. If Respawn had any balls then ranked would grant rp for winning and for absolutely nothing else. Sink or swim, scrubs.

On the subject of improvement: I thought it was a good analogy but I guess I missed with that one. The way I'm reading your comment is that you're suggesting that until we all achieve 100% accuracy 100% of the time, then we can get better. Theoretically true, and yet completely unrealistic and frankly impossible. Did I misinterpret? Because if I didn't, then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Lastly, either you mis-read the last two paragraphs, or again, I explained myself poorly. No matter.

And don't think because I give a lot of push-back that I don't listen to what you say and appreciate the point of view. I do.
swift07
4 years ago
@reconzeroI was telling Hayhor that people don't take pubs as serious as ranked and you replied that the "difference is perceived and not real". Misinterpretation from my part but a little bit confusing on your point. We all know the rules are the same but I am speaking on the topic of how people viewed pubs and the level of competition.

There's always room for improvements and you mentioned gravitational field and how it can limit you. They are not the same. Improvements cannot be limited since we will never reach perfection. We will just keep improving as long as we make the effort, but we are not limited. My comment never states anything about reaching "100% accuracy 100% of the time". That would be humanly impossible anyways. This is what I said:
"As for skills, people don't hit walls, they just get steeper hills to climb. Meaning that it will be harder for you to improve later in the game and you will not see drastic improvements but smaller ones. You will never stop improving. Once you believe that you have "hit a wall", you're mentally hurting your progression with content. Also, making a statement that you "hit a wall" seems a bit arrogant. If you've hit a wall, then why are you not a pro?"
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@OldTreeCreeper I was about to name this thread about those blue guys but realized smurfs are whole different thing in apex. LMAO.
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
All I’m gonna say as to why I play differently in pubs in rank is because of how people play pubs. The lobby doesn’t adjust to your playstyle, you do. Of course you can play however you want but dropping at the edge of the map will just be a 15min game looting like Animal Crossing only for your squad to get ran over by the squad who killed 5 other squads. As much as I want to be “tactical” in pubs, that’s not the reality and current state of pubs. Not sure about you guys’ lobbies but mine is left with 5 squads at the end of round 2 or even round 1. If you’re not gonna get in the action early, you won’t get any at all.

Rank compared to pubs is a different game unless you’re in silver or below.
hayhor
Hero
4 years ago
@Cheese9Man I had an 11.5 minute win yesterday in pubs. The champ squad had 180k combined kills. Thankfully they died mid game 🤣
pandareno1999
Hero+
4 years ago
@Cheese9Man Correct term is "blue gamers." 🙂 That's what I call out when we round the bend to find that last squad posted up in zone like it's a pred lobby, waiting to take their first gunfight of the match.