Hello Dear EA/Respawn, I wanted to hit masters in Season 4 but massive amount of cheaters made me stop playing ranked.There are couple of cheaters in Apex which makes the game unplayable and takes all the fun while playing it. Especially when you play in higher ranks. So I was thinking about a viable way to reduce the chance of cheating attempts in the game and came up with the idea of implementing a forced 2FA-Authorization in higher ranks (for example beginning from Diamond). So every player should link his phone number to his account in order to play at higher ranks. I think this will stop cheaters from trying and even if they do, they have something to loose at least. Their phone number and the money they paid for it. What do you think?

@DoIlarTreeAceuthe vast amount of cheaters can't be identified because they use "soft" cheats which are not that easy to detect. They don't hit head shots only and will not fully control recoil to be less detectable. My * friend took predator without been detected using such cheats(and his true rank is gold).. ive reported him with attached video, but a lot of time passed and he is not banned yet.

@DaAceXD Mate, literally all you seem to do is look for cheater posts to try and condemn those calling for action, and telling everyone to get better at the game. You only ever seem to pipe up when people bring up cheating.I've now decided based on the only plausible explanation and overwhelming logic here, that you use soft mods and cheat yourself.

DaAceXD, you are starting to get suspicious.Apex Legends have a huge cheaters problem, and soft cheating problems, yet you are making thread for exactly the opposite and explaining how the game is clean and people are just bad and blame people who are not using any sort of cheats, yet you don`t have any proof to suggest that.I don`t see a reason to making a thread and then continue defend your case in another thread ....Just because you don`t wanna see the problem or its a part of a problem, doesn`t mean there is no problem.Soft cheats exist and Apex is filled with them.This is not CS:GO with low TTK and anyone to kill you and to put it on luck or anything. Apex Legends actually require the greatest amount of skill and the game is pretty hard to learn and to get really good at it.its not easy to track opponent and land most of your shots, to move hard and keep your recoil in check at greater distances.Yet somehow players with new accounts that recently started, move and loot terrible, yet are beaming you like Pros from any distance.While on close range, anything can happen and they can mastiff you, but to beam you like PRO from a medium or long distance and barely miss a shot, yeah come on.Every new cheat(check youtube) have soft version to put on the settings and to not be blatantly obvious, and to make you think is this guy cheating or not ?I won`t even talk about single firerate and recoil macros/scripts, because probably more than 50% of the player base atm is using them.Streamers are not even hiding their G-Hub software and stay open with their macro stuffs.Let me give a concrete stuffs for example:Few days ago was watching Hal stream and before a tournament usually Pros go and play Pubs for high kill to warm up good or just for a chill. He didn`t said it in the straight context, but it was what he thinking, that somehow, suddenly public lobby(aka normal trios) players suddenly develop high skill and lasers :D And suddenly they are almost not missing a shots and pub are way harder now ....He played for like an hour and couldn`t get an out of Fragment. :D Didn`t even won a single game.Yeah suddenly low level and tier players are somehow god aimers from any distances and can use all the current weapons in game with a god aim. ;DAs far as for OP solution, it won`t work. A real solution is a TOP anti-cheating program, that detect the cheat the moment the game client is started and ban the player straight away. Same for the macro/scripts.Anything that interfere with the game should be considered cheating and players should be banned straight away.Until then, soon will be like CS:GO without prime(not that the Prime is not filled with cheaters tho). You are going on DM for example with 10 players, and 9 out of 10 are cheaters. :D

@DarthValtrex @littlxr I love that we are talking of him like he is not here. He really should be ignored at this point. I know people ignore me when talking of my beloved netcode issues! :P

@littlxr wrote:@LordloshBangIt's pointless trying to get him to understand, he just can't accept that the game is filled to the brim with cheaters, and is even more reluctant to accept that streamers and pros do it.Oh, and he's never played on console but claims cheating barely happens there too, and is constantly demanding proof instead, like we - normal gamers - are able to conjure actual statistical figures to support our case when it's not our job.Don't get roped into it. He loves gaslighting and ignoring basic logic and reasoning, despite never having played on console to see what I see. I think he legitimately gets turned on by it all, and I hate myself for allowing myself to be his sick little fantasy for as long as I have.Yeah i actually got to stop writing too, cause this is purely waste of time and eating my game time. :DI agree with what you say.I strictly said i`m talking about PC, because i don`t play on console and don`t know what the situation is in there. And i also do not watch console players. But i believe people that said the situation is bad in there as well, because i know how bad the situation on PC is.I was a CS player, and there is tons of cheaters in there. And the situation is kinda the same. They are just refusing to accept the true and refusing to do anything.A lot of top pro players are using aim locks and its obvious as hellActually this was one of the main reason to quit CS, and the low TTK which i wasn`t happy with.Apex has great mechanics, and very good TTK and i love almost everything about this game, but cheaters are just ruining the fun out of this game.

Countermeasurement to avoid cheating in first place

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DaAceXD
5 years ago
@StingggyJelly You believe your screenshot is proof someone cheats?

Even if he was cheating, This game has bullet travel time.
No one can lazer you down from 200m all in the head if your movement is half decent. Not even cheaters.

The only moment i get killed like that over 200m is if im derping for some reason.
StingggyJelly
5 years ago
@DaAceXD i have the video and watching him playing also, you are looks suspicious, dont tell me you are the one making the cheats out there,
and you are day dreaming for about movement is half decent, i was keep moving and the shots is hits and not even 1 miss, now i believe this community like you supporting cheaters is make this game awfull, now im really suspious with you, where is your gameplay ? you keep tellin some to get better and tryin to convince everyone there is no cheats in most of your reply, EA should checking out your acc and IP.
DaAceXD
5 years ago
@StingggyJelly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuBAh8LY6tA&t=1s

One of many video's of me and my friends playing.
Its not top streamer level. But i guess thats not the point anyway 🙂
apostolateofDOO
5 years ago
@DaAceXDActually it might be. :P

Most of your videos have the drop removed with the exception of a few but the ones that did, I only saw one with a predator trail (series 2 at that) and another one or two with diamond trails as your team mate who was with you is diamond.

This leads me to conclude that you're placed in mid/lower tier lobbies more often where the hackers aren't as prevalent as they move up quickly.
DaAceXD
5 years ago
@apostolateofDOOM Ive had shivfps In my games.

That guy has the most damage done in the world.
Low/mid tier lobbys sound about right 😅

Most of my videos have everything but the fighting cut out to reduce the length of the video’s
apostolateofDOO
5 years ago
@DaAceXD I'm not saying you don't get into the top lobbies occasionally as i can see you're ''better than average'' but i don't think you remain in them consistently.
littlxr
5 years ago
@DaAceXD Must be nice having essentially zero recoil due to playing on PC, and claiming that people abusing third party mods to achieve the same thing on PS4 aren't cheating, nor common, lmao!

Okay, so here's the scenario. Either:

1) You're using anti-recoil macros, because it's quite clear that in many of your YouTube clips, your crosshair doesn't so much as twitch in any direction. We all play the game, we all fire the guns, we all know how it looks regardless of "recoil control". So are you using macros?

OR

2) You don't cheat, and there is simply next to no recoil when using a mouse and playing on PC, when compared to a controller on console. And that is factually evident by PC gamer streams, including your own.

So firstly, which is it?

Secondly: Your answer to the above will prove my point in any direction.

If you choose option 1, you prove my point that all along I've stood by the fact that I believe you're a cheater (not that you'd ever admit it, so it's pointless me asking).

Or if you choose option 2, you evidently support my main point that those using third party mouse and keyboard mods and scripts on PS4 (of which there are MILLIONS) are in fact cheating, due to the reduction in recoil control required to laser aim, COMBINED WITH AIM ASSIST on console (due to the console being duped into thinking they're using a normal controller).

Just by watching your first kill, your very first bit of shooting with the Havoc and R301. Do you honestly think that that level of central crosshair stability is possible on console, consistently, without cheats? Like, seriously? Have you ever even played on console?
DaAceXD
5 years ago
@apostolateofDOOM

Yes i play in low tier / mid tier / and the occasional high tier.

So im all over the place,

One day im playing in lobby’s against players that dont know how to slide, and the next day im fighting shiv. And the next day im back in the low tier lobby’s again.

That sounds about right. That is how sbmm works!

I prefere not discussing my skills in this game since its as off-topic as can be.

If your theory is correct, then all the top tier players should get their * kicked by cheaters All the time.
Since all the cheaters would go in the 1% lobby right?

So if we have 1000 cheaters on 1 million players and that is 0.1% of the playerbase in this scenario.
The top lobbys and the streamers in then should be obliterated game after game after game. And there are people claiming 50% of the players cheat. This makes no sense at all.

And are you telling me all the people im discussing with are top tier players meeting cheaters every 2nd match?

Anyone that can show me a video of himself playing on top tier level. I would take slighty more serious.

But top tier players dont come on these forums claiming they meet cheaters every match because they just dont. So i doubt ill be proven wrong.
DaAceXD
5 years ago
@littlxrCan i chose option 3?
I control my recoil?
also im not claiming that people that dont use cheats and scripts to achieve better aim are not cheating.
im saying a lot of people practised to get good aim.

Check out nicewigg, daltoosh on twitch while you are at it.
They do WAAAAAAAAY more sick things then im doing in my videos.
And guess what! They are controller players
if my recoil control makes you think i cheat.
here is my advice again:
get better at the game and you will see less cheaters
its possible even on consoles.
there are many players who proof that every day.
littlxr
5 years ago
@DaAceXD Great argument there bro. Pick a couple of the world's best console gamers to somehow justify that everyone online can shoot like that whilst having the movement and tactical/map awareness of a five year old.

Let's say I die and spectate my killers, who all shoot even BETTER than this guy. Consistently every day, at least 10 matches a day. Are you telling me you'd say they are all just THAT good and simply cannot be cheating, because the 0.00001% of console gamers who are true professionals are able to do it?

Also you ignored my point about the cheating aspect. I asked you if you were controlling recoil, and whether PC is easier to control recoil than console as a result. If so, mouse and keyboard players on PS4 who abuse the easier recoil control, aim assist, and scripts, are cheating, yes? Do you agree?

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