The cat is out of the bag on the methods that EA is using to construct our matchmaking; several different popular youtubers have posted this week about EOMM.So what is the consensus on the this forum thus far? I don’t really like the idea that the publisher is actively trying to manipulate my emotions in an attempt to get me to play more/spend more. I totally get that companies need to make money, but I feel like ramping up/down the difficulty in an activity that’s PvP is sort of wrong. Man I miss the online scene a decade ago, where everything wasn’t micro-transactions and loot boxes.

@BaldWraithSimp Nah it's legit. Both sub level 100's ALWAYS get blue or purple armour and kitted weapons when i'm lucky to get white with no meds and a p2020.It's rigged!! :P

@Axs5626Sxa5001 Making me lose(or win) to keep me playing is so sick and downright disgusting. We can't even enjoy the game unless it's on EA/Respawn terms.

I know this post is hella old. But something happened to me that made me look this topic up. I was completely dominating in this match of duos, but it was empy feeling because EVERYONE felt like a bot, including my teammate. I was doing dumb stuff, expecting to lose and I just kept getting knocks. Like no joke, when I say bot, I mean it. My teammate would literally go to every exact ping that I made and wait. When I pinged enemies, he would run and shoot. I wish I had the playback footage. It was wacky. And I had just come off of a full day of losses because i was playing with my lower ranked brother the day before. I'm level caped and he's like 80, was trying to get him into the game.

@Axs5626Sxa5001 I honestly think they focus on data to much and forget or push aside what makes playing fun for balance or engagement which ultimately pushes people away. Difference being that doing it their way, they have retained the wrong crowd or attract new ones and pushed away those that were originally invested with both considerable time and money, the most likely to keep supporting in the future. A few on this forum are prime examples of that.Everything popular they have nerfed or removed.. RIP Skulltown.Take legend balance for example, i'm not saying that balancing didn't need doing as it certainly did (and overall it's kind of been successful) but the way they've gone about it is awful. Wraith with her original instant q now taking so long to activate that you could wipe a squad in that time with good aim. How is that fun compared to before?? Increase the cd to a minute or 2 if you have to but the rework is *, turning her from a hyper aggressive character into a relocation expert or something?Same with Path and yes his mobility needed shutting down to a certain extent but he didn't need that 0.5 sec attach grapple time added and low profile after his recent nerf should have been removed but good players can utilise his ability still and pickrate i believe is still up there so we have second most popular turned into a a spider fridge tank till the data shows otherwise.Lobas tactical and Ramparts general design too.SBMM, SBMR, SBR or EOMM.. Anyone playing the game will learn to get round these protection from dropping solo repeatedly, smurf acc, throwing games in lower tier ranked with no intention of progressing ect.. You all know i've brought this up a few times and created threads as it's noob bashing, the equivalent to bullying in a sense but if the games are artificially set to stress you out and then relax you to try give you a happy medium on a RNG based BR then i can't blame the players for getting round that as it's the developers who implemented it. Not that i do or ever will condone it for obvious reason.. Often see threads on here of players doing just that, bragging how they got a high kill game but in the video or by their own admission they did one of the things mentioned and i just think it's pathetic personally. Again though, i blame the developer just as much as the player.Microtransactions - Previously you could set up your characters look with a hundred different shoes, gloves hats ect ect.. (more choice for one set of an outfit than the entire range of full outfits we currently have) leading to million to potentially hundreds of millions of different looks to make your character unique to you and extremely rare 2 are the same unless you are new.Less variety, fun and CHOICE for the same or in this case (compared to other f2p games) a higher price.. Cost saving on their end leading to a lower end and less enjoyable product for us, the player.Forgetting about the 101 other problems that can be addressed the direction they're going IMO is wrong. Back in the day hey!Edit: It's worth noting that EOMM isn't implemented in Apex currently (apparently) according to Michael Kalas on his personal twitter, not being official i would take it with a pinch of salt, but whatever method we currently have will equate to similar outcomes anyway so still worth discussing.Edit 2: @Axs5626Sxa5001 Do you still have a copy of that SBMM thread?

@Axs5626Sxa5001While I'm not a fan this isnt new. Anyone that's played fifa ultimate team for the last 5 or 6 years has experienced it. Except in fifa they also try to control the in game with momentum and handicapping, which they deny......I've been banned from those forums before.What would blow my mind is to find out games like Apex and Warzone also try to control the in game stuff.

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hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@DaleWWilson95 They really let the cat out of the bag in fifa 20 when they did the new friendly modes. There was one where the boost changed every so often. It showed how easily they could manipulate the gameplay in game.
DaleWWilson95
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@hayhor Exactly! So people who complain about hit reg and bullets going round corners may have a point idk like it could be an invisible wall protecting those same players or like magnetic/gravity bullets is helping those people shoot round corners? Idk hopefully Microsoft buys out respawn aswell..
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@DaleWWilson95 It is scary to think that they are manipulating this one in game too. I've not noticed it but I'm not going to say they do not. Anything is possible.
DaleWWilson95
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@hayhor its pretty noticeable to me 1 good sqaud 1 game the next hot drop and die.. This isnt even SBMM at this point.. Also imo they could increase player damage output depending how good or bad someone did the previous game and just make it look like they do the same damage in range but in a game totally different
BaldWraithSimp
5 years ago
@DaleWWilson95Wtf. Now you guys are just making up conspiracy theories really lmao
DaleWWilson95
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@BaldWraithSimpThe last part is just my opinion dude might be overthinking a little but anything really is possible
DoYaSeeMe
5 years ago
Hey, can someone here borrow me a large tinfoil hat? :P
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@DaleWWilson95 The random matchups are one thing. I'm saying the in game stuff. I havent seen it myself.
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@BaldWraithSimp 😂 It is quite the rabbit hole to go down in apex but everyone I know that plays fifa says the in game stuff is obvious.
apostolateofDOO
5 years ago
@BaldWraithSimp Nah it's legit. Both sub level 100's ALWAYS get blue or purple armour and kitted weapons when i'm lucky to get white with no meds and a p2020.

It's rigged!! :P

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