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5 years ago

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I’d rather have long queue times than rank merging to fill

I know this has been talked about time and time again so essentially wasting my time but had a terrible day of ranked getting killed by #40 pred and higher every match at diamond . Every match is 40...

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apostolateofDOO
5 years ago
@MassiveVernonI know, it's good to get it out... xD

There's no excuse with crossplay and the way they put people in matches but as with almost every other suggestion, i doubt much will change.

I've been pretty vocal on these and other points in previous ranked series but most forum regs didn't sympathise as they didn't bother with ranked much back then, if at all, and some still don't so the topics quickly die away.

Be better if we just had an easy, intermediate and hard mode as even that will add more variance to the current state of bronze to gold and plat to pred.
Unless you're solo que D4/3 fighting stacked pre made master/pred lobbies with gold and plats in your team. It's a joke.

DoYaSeeMe

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5 years ago

Waiting is a very big problem. it zones people out, breaking their flow, it is boring and eats valuable time. These are issues that affect high level players much more than casuals. Maybe we don't mind waiting 5 minutes instead of 30 seconds, but for them it would be more like 20 minutes instead of 10, which means 4-5 hours wasted for each 8 hour play session. That's bad for training, for creating content, for streaming... Many good reasons to abandon the game and, as more and more people would start leaving, that would just scale up the waiting problem exponentially. Smurf number would also increase because of this, potentially making the low ranks unplayable at times.

Allowing more people into diamond rank can't really fix it. If those people would come from lower ranks, this problem would just translate, we'd be getting more platinum / gold people complaining about getting matched with higher ranks, while waiting time for preds would just increase. If those people would be brought in from other data centers, lag would become a big issue. Only way I see is for Respawn to seduce more players to get into Apex and then involved in ranked and also convince somehow the existing players to stay, to keep queue numbers sufficient.

apostolateofDOO
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5 years ago
@DoYaSeeMe I would have thought having more players to draw from with crossplay that this would have significantly improved.
- DoYaSeeMe
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  5 years ago
  @apostolateofDOOM Maybe crossplay just prevented an accelerated deterioration of ranked because of too few players in certain skill brackets / too long queues. Hard to know without numbers...
- hayhor
  Hero (Retired)
  5 years ago
  @apostolateofDOOM Crossplay didnt solve and was never going to solve anything in regards to this. There are only 500 preds on each system so 1500. And looking at the percentages that have been published masters and preds combined are like .3% of ranked players. That is not much at all. Diamonds are only like 1.5%. Again not many really.
  
  So then let's look at crossplay. On PC you only get more people if console people squad with PC. I doubt that many masters and preds from console squad with PC masters and preds. And even if they did, now the console only population has lost people that can fill their queues.
  - apostolateofDOO
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    5 years ago
    @hayhorThat's just the 1500 preds, then masters which will have much more and then diamonds too. With 35% of players playing ranked? I'm just guessing that but i'm sure they posted a similar figure if someone has a link as i can't be bothered. That should be a substantial amount of people to fill with a minimum of diamond in pred lobbies.
    
    Golds and plats in my team at that level is no excuse and they drastically need to rework ranked if it's really that bad.