It's still a pretty big grind, right? I get that the stars only need half the xp as yesterday, but the battle pass is still harder to get by my understanding... (correct me if I'm wrong) ...And I feel like the whole stars system is MORE complicated than the last battle pass... They said the changes to the battle pass were to make it more fun, engaging and simple, right? (<----Paraphrasing 😅) Well it doesn't feel more fun, it feels less engaging/rewarding, and it is not more simple. What was wrong with the old battle pass system? And like... could we have it back?

@Jekth_Avid Overall I'd agree. It seems to be a bigger grind that forces players to play more days per week to get the same progression as before.

it's 2x slower than before since 100k xp give you 2 lvl now whereas 100k gave you 4 lvl before@Cabowse"Nobody has really considered the fact that the dailies give you a lot more BP progression now. You get about 8 stars overall per day just from the daily challenges" they take forever to complete and with this system, you need to play EVERYDAY (something nobody does)

@NaRnIaaa yeah dailies do not appear to be more rewarding than before to me. Add to that they removed giving us a level for completing 5 and 10 challenges per week.Overall, I don't think this star system is as efficient for leveling as having challenges give us XP towards the old XP system.

@CabowseEven if your mock up is correct, I still feel that the old system was better. Not perfect, but better. And the reason I think that is pretty simple:A lot of people need that "burst" to even complete their passes, because of things like work or school or family activities or whatever. Some people can only play Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. In the old system, that was 3 days to rank up XP (with BP levels starting as low as 9K), enough time to get the 5 and 10 Daily Challenge BP levels, and do some challenges for more XP/levels. You could "burst" through your pass in your free time and then do whatever you needed to do in terms of life commitments and still feel like you are rewarded for your time and effort that you're capable of putting into the game.This system does *NOT* do that. This system requires *daily* participation for *hours* just to keep your head above water. And, if you don't live and breathe Apex Legends, you're just screwed. If you do not have the time to dedicate to this game, everyday, then you are forced to buy levels, never finish it, or just ignore the pass completely.This pass only works for the more "hardcore" Apex players that either do it for work (streamers and YTers) or have a lot of free time to just sit down and play a game for hours and hours a day. That is not the case for a lot of people, and is probably not the case for most people that play this game, as "the casuals" usually make up a large chunk of games, like this.So, yeah, personally I feel that this current BP design stinks for the reason I mentioned above. And I say this as someone who can dedicate the time needed to finish this pass, as is. But, I understand not everyone can.Also, personally, while I *can* dedicate the insane amount of time that the BP demands, I really don't *want* to. It's a grind fest that feels unrewarding and far from engaging. If anything, the current BP system makes me not want to play *at all*, not play it *more* as Respawn hopes I will. Which was supposedly their intent for the Battle Pass changes, in the first place. Well, sorry, but that was a big swing and a miss, in my opinion.They either need to go back to the old system (which still wasn't perfect) or they need to make some drastic changes to this one. Because, even with shaving off 5K per Star, this BP system still feels grindy as Hell. Here's hoping those "challenge changes" they talked about coming next week are actually good and make this all feel a lot better. Fingers crossed and all that.(Lastly, I should mention that I say all this, not because I hate the game, but rather because I love it, at its core. As I have said in other threads/comments: this is the *ONLY* Battle Royale game I've actually enjoyed and I want to keep on enjoying it. But, things like the S7 BP system make that really hard to do. So, I hope some big changes for it are coming soon. Because I really do not want to play the game with its current system)

@Jekth_Avid it's not fixed, take a look at the Reddit. A lot of people have done some calculations and apparently it still requires exponentially more EXP to complete than previous seasons.

I... Don't think the battle pass is fixed.

19 Replies

Cabowse
5 years ago
@Jekth_Avid I think actually now it feels a bit more balanced than before.

Nobody has really considered the fact that the dailies give you a lot more BP progression now. You get about 8 stars overall per day just from the daily challenges, and i'm pretty sure the old ones only just gave you about 3000xp each.

This means you're pretty much looking at a battle-pass level per day, on top of the weekly levels, and any additional you get through XP.

This means that progression is going to be a lot more balanced across the week rather than all just coming at once on a Tuesday.
NaRnIaaa
5 years ago
it's 2x slower than before since 100k xp give you 2 lvl now whereas 100k gave you 4 lvl before
@Cabowse"Nobody has really considered the fact that the dailies give you a lot more BP progression now. You get about 8 stars overall per day just from the daily challenges" they take forever to complete and with this system, you need to play EVERYDAY (something nobody does)
ArchAngeL-PCX
5 years ago
@NaRnIaaa yeah dailies do not appear to be more rewarding than before to me. Add to that they removed giving us a level for completing 5 and 10 challenges per week.

Overall, I don't think this star system is as efficient for leveling as having challenges give us XP towards the old XP system.
ArchAngeL-PCX
5 years ago
@Jekth_Avid Overall I'd agree. It seems to be a bigger grind that forces players to play more days per week to get the same progression as before.
Cabowse
5 years ago
@NaRnIaaa Only at the start of the week though and then it was 1 level every 57k.

Generally what I'm trying to say is the battle-pass doesn't give you the same burst of levels like it used to, you'll get more through daily play than before but less from the weekly challenges.

OLD:
3 daily challenges that would reward you with 3000XP/stars (15% of a battle-pass level)

NEW
5 daily challenges that reward you with 8 stars between them (80% of a battle-pass level)
Saidi1988
5 years ago
Anybody else having problems with kills not being counted in the season 7 stats?
In total i got 92 kills, but only 63 are shown in the season 7 stats.
Sorry, it’s not really topic related. I asked other people about this and they have the same problem.
pastaclown
5 years ago
@Jekth_Avid it's not fixed, take a look at the Reddit. A lot of people have done some calculations and apparently it still requires exponentially more EXP to complete than previous seasons.
xMaxrayx
5 years ago
@Jekth_Avid money will fix it
money is everywhere
next buy2win auto aim gun.
NaRnIaaa
5 years ago
@Cabowse "Only at the start of the week though" not really
"OLD:
3 daily challenges that would reward you with 3000XP/stars (15% of a battle-pass level)" and 5 dailies give you 1 lvl, 10 dailies give you another lvl
Cabowse
5 years ago
@NaRnIaaa True but the new system does actually give most players more battle-pass levels overall, even with the weekly re-occuring ones factored in!

Here's an example I mocked up yesterday 🙂

https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Battlepass-Math/m-p/9699135/highlight/true#M118466