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AREYOUSITHREOUS's avatar
3 years ago
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I think I'm going to quit Apex, here's why...

Almost 3k hours, I am at the point where I feel like I'm wasting my time and energy with this game. I need answers. Are casual players leaving this game? Because it seems like Smurfers have infested this game as well as constantly queuing in Master/Pred lobbies.

I'm a casual player at heart and I've worked very hard to get where I am at consistently hitting Diamond. Obviously, with the unfortunate rework of Season 17 ranked, I reached Masters and of course I don't feel like I deserve it. I know I don't deserve it. I know I belong in Diamond until I can get better. I know we have our good days and our bad days. However, a straight week of playing this game and having to deal with the consistent flood of insane players is just frustrating. It's so mental. But the pace at which this game promotes, the addiction is clear. GG go next. 

The consistent queuing with these insane players really just demotivates me and makes me not want to play. I want to have fun but every team I come across just have this insane level of gun skill. I am constantly skill gapped. How can I improve when I don't even have the room or breathing space to? Now before you comment me to tell me to get good, I do get good. I've had consistent improvement season to season working on my movement and gun skill. But this season, I feel like I'm being hit by a damn 18-wheeler going 200mph. Having to lose almost 20 times before we can clutch up a dub is just something I don't care to continue to do. So, ONE good game but 20+ losses back-to-back; it's almost unimaginable to me how people think it's okay to put themselves in that situation. I would even accept having a good fight between a few teams and not get the dub because obviously you cannot get all the dubs. But even upon landing, hot dropping or a long rotation, a team just beams the S**t out of you. It's insane...

To give you some perspective, here are my stats and they are not impressive:

-511 Career wins (Started Season 7) (PC player)

-5+ Million Dmg (Lifetime)

-1.06 K/D

I think the 1.06 Lifetime KD I have is what gets me. For this season, my KD is 1.24 which to me is not impressive. It's improvement but not impressive. Considering the majority of actual Master and Pred players double or even triple that. I'm speaking specifically the difficulty/matchmaking in PUBS. Ranked is totally different and I feel that I would definitely do better because I am forced to 3 stack to have the best comms and strategy making possible vice hoping the randos will even consider team play.

But Pubs? I believe that I shouldn't be queuing against MASTER or PRED players with the KD I have. So what type of Matchmaking does this game really have?? I am 1.06 KD LIFETIME. Where are my 1 KD players at? I KNOW that I will be outplayed by a Master/Pred where I have 6k+ kills with octane. How does this compare with the average Master/Pred who have over 20k or even 30+k kills with one singular legend? I don't even die by a Diamond or Plat player anymore. I die by low level accounts which are most likely SMURFS or Triple badged Masters and Pred. So, how about this...if you're telling me that's just the way it is, then why don't I have Master or Pred players in my squad? I get lvl 2-3-400 players non-prestiged or possible smurfers sub lvl 50??? Tell me how that's fair? Where are even my Diamond or Plat players to Queue with me. I'll accept them??? Instead, I feel like based on my non-impressive stats, that's why I get these players...then enter the lobby who just have insane stats that we have to fight against...I am led to believe that SBMM is just...TRASH.

Observations:

-I've noticed that most American servers are insanely cluttered with questionable skill. Not only with smurfs but the questionable beams.

-I've noticed that A LOT of players are moving over to controller and I think a lot has to do with pro players influencing that move as well as borderline exploits with ALC settings. It's everywhere. It shows up on my TikTok, I've seen it on youtube as well as Macro/Config users. Additionally, I've played with a controller using those "recommended" ALC settings and the MAGNETISM even at 40% for PC is INSANE.

-I looked into "Config" while I've been informed that it's a banable offense, sources like YouTube have videos showing what PITO strafing is, NEO strafing and all that. All people have to do is pay into their Patreon and receive the config files or do it themselves...why isn't this talked about more?

I feel like no actual investigation is being done with this as long as Respawn and EA meet their acquisition quotas. I want to have fun and I feel like I'm just not gonna get that. Maybe I'm asking for too much but I'm not trying to be the next ImperialHal, Aceu, Faide or whoever. Just a casual guy who likes the mechanics of the game, legends, lore and all. But now I'm just more than ready to hang up the gloves.

At the end of the day, it's a game. And for the majority of people who play games, I'm sure they want to have fun with it.

Seriously, tell me your thoughts. I'm not having fun anymore. It's a sweat fest and I'm ready to quit.

Pro players, sure, give me your thoughts. 

Casual players, I want to know your thoughts do you feel the same way?

I'm just one casual player, but I wonder how many others feel this way these days. I can only imagine if there is a continuous decline of player loss for this game, Apex might have some issues to face. 

Thanks for reading.

  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    3 years ago
    @AREYOUSITHREOUS

    Well said, and well thought-out.

    And 500+ wins on 11k matches is a little less than 5% - nothing to sneeze at, especially if you're an "all out" player as most seem to be.

    Maybe this will help you feel a little better: I'm at 23k+ matches total, with a win rate hovering around 7+%, but only because I'm NOT an "all out" kind of player. I have a high k/d but it's artificial because I will seldom treat a match as kill or die. It's more kill until my teammates get themselves killed and then bail. The k/d would look even less impressive if you saw my kills/total matches. It's spectacularly low. If I played ranked, which I don't, my rank would maybe peak at high gold. Maybe. I just don't have the patience or the teamwork or the aim or the ambition to push that envelope.

    But what we definitely have in common is the sense that there are a good many players in this game who, when you meet them, are not just shooting back at you. They're an impenetrable wall of 95% accuracy gunfire. You don't engage them. You get vaporized by them. That tends to feel like bad matchmaking, but there are times when I hit every shot I make and have a handful of kills by second circle, and for no very clear reason that I can make out. Then, mostly, I'm getting vaporized by what look and feel like aimbotters, but are probably just well coordinated teams.

    I think @hayhor hit the nail on the head: take a break for a few days. I have an enforced break coming up and I'm actually looking forward to it.

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  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @KelRiever

    "if you don't spend any money on it, you can occupy their servers and have a lot of fun. Fun can mean anything, too, whether playing the game as designed, playing the game without concern for all the bad rules and taking advantage of them, trolling, dropping and quitting, or really anything you want to do to this game and inflict on it."

    I can't agree with this enough. There comes a point where the game, as intended to be played, becomes unplayable. Many people will leave at that point, but like you, I prefer to stay and just make my own game out of the bones the developer leaves.
  • I took months off. This season has been the worst. Not the best ayer but I can hold my own. I have had 11 straight games with 000 for game states. I have never experienced the insanity like I have this season. I can't hit a target no matter how hard I try and I have tried all the tips and suggestions out there. Can't seem to compete with the teams out there. I saw a championship team with more than 160k between them. That is out of my league. So I am do e with this game. No fun, no money. Pretty simple.

  • 1-mf's avatar
    1-mf
    11 months ago
    @Conman1978 " That is out of my league." ,the biggest problem is that you underestimate yourself, you need to face this kind of players to improve your skills, if you expect from game to put you in low-skill lobbies you better delete the game. When you end up mixed with 2 bad players in pubs means you are better and game is balancing. Do not think that 50k+ kills is something insane in 2024, few seasons ago people started the trend - 10k kills per season with some legend.
  • Yeah I agree. I love this game except for the same reasons you mentioned.  I guess I just suck because I can count on 1 hand how many dubs I have gotten. Maybe 2 hands if you count the wins as a default for having random teammates who carried me. But like you am a casual player and believe me, the controller thing you mentioned, well I have to say that a mouse for me is much easier as well as having a really dope monitor that's smaller along with lightening fast internet is going to give any player the upper hand. Right now I'm running average speeds, with a huge 4k TV, playing at default settings on my Playstation controller. But not glued to my gaming system as i prefer to do in my life. Not that I'm saying anything bad with doing whatever you want to in life, just as me as a person, i chose to spend what he hours we have in an earth day, i spend doing other things like riding, or making music, or sleeping, and squeeze 1 hour of gaming. But shoot lately, I've been playing on training  mode to see of i could improve and with my start fresh account with EA and new profile with Apex ( not by choice ) i can't help but see how much harder it's gotten to even play a team death match. Like for me it's literally a match of me watching my death over and over and over again. This game should be call Apex versus Prey and separate the pros (which seems like everyone but me) to Apex and the nubes like me to Prey because that's what it feels like. I'm easy pickings and see that EA let's cheating happen due to do many computer players abilities to hack versus a console player like me playing the game as it was designed to. I'm done Apex and have been worth you guys since the very beginning while I was getting beat up on Fortnite by a 7 year old. Lol ✌️