I'm rookie IV and I need 1k LP for every division

I have no problem with people losing ranked points if they don't finish top 10.

But for sure kills should count for more when you do, because the grind is too much on number of games you play, now.  

Ranked is extremely grindy.  I understand the problem last season was too easy to get to Diamond and Masters, but Respawn can control that with a variable scale, based on number of players, rather than have it be fixed.  They could do that with all ranks, really but it's a bad idea if you don't scale both finishing top 10 and make kills worthwhile to do it.  
Last season it was too easy to rank up, this one it is too hard with grind.

Again, this is a headache because people want to take ranked seriously and then combine that with Battle Royale, an idea that, when formed, was completely for just having a good time and not a main format.

I always find it funny how something like Control is considered a secondary format now, and the most ludicrous game mode...send 20 teams in, see who comes out 1st...is something people want to be all serious faced about.

@TheRedLion93 

Technically, the entry free IS -35 but it's very oddly worded. The entry free is now factored into the amount of LPs you get depending on your finishing position. So for 15-20 it's -15, plus -35 fee = -50. For 11-14 it's +5 (-30) and 9,10 +35 (0).

It's unnecessarily confusing.

You don't have a problem withh that but we do!! Rank is not a tournament and even tournaments reward the losers look at ALGS point reward system and monetary rewards.

You get positive points from each and all kill regardless of your placement..

You may not see a problem there but there is one actually because if 50% of the lobby don't make points it means 50% played for nothing... they don't want to play anymore

they find the game pointless and a waste of time. Staying alive by hiding and avoiding fighting is not a valuable skill... it is a pretty mediocre skill so that means you keep

rewarding this mediocre skill and punishing those who actually want to participate in the killing of teams to win. That also means that less players will enjoy the game and your numbers 

will go down as well as your revenue.

There is no reason to go that route... not for skill not for increasing the player base either.

@Palette24carats So you want points for losing ? 
the ranks where always extremely inflated by people far below the actual necessary skill… 

I just looked up season 15 split 2 and there where over 20% of the playerbase in Platin lol

and 10% in diamond… that is pure madness. I know not a single other game where high ranks are given away as partition trophies like this…

it meant nothing to see a diamond player or even master player in apex.

now it’s ofc a very rough awakening for many people that believe they are high tier players with their inflated ego because they hit Platin/diamond in the past…

when in reality they should’ve never been there to begin with 

take csgo as an example the highest 5 ranks combined are barely above 10% of the playerbase. And guess what you either win the game and get mmr or you lose and you lose mmr. 

Im actually glad ranked is finally harder.

@BallisticMVPOut of curiosity how many ranks are there in csgo? How many do you consider there to be in Apex? Do you consider the tiers within a rank a rank?

The reality is it is still not that difficult to get to diamond. There were 120k people in diamond 3 weeks into the split. The people not getting there are just refusing to play a hide and seek game. I have friends that were diamond players in the past that made it easily in 3 weeks and hated the process to do it.

Yeah its called points for kills (point for skills) and it was rewarded for 3 years plus it is rewarded heavily in ALGS.

Plus you are rewarded a lot for losing at 2nd place stop the losing the game myopia. 

Csgo is a 2 teams game... 50% winning in a balanced game while Apex is a 20 teams game = 5% chance of winning in a balanced game. A rank system has to reward playing , participating and showing skills or its pointless.

So you want to repulse the player base and destroy the game revenue? Player base is already 30% down from the peak, all my friends stopped playing it because of that silliness, the new friends I have say the same thing: their friends stopped playing because of what the rank has become and they too were looking for new friends and even them think its pointless.  

Rank was very good until season 12 I never used season 12 or 15 as a reference why do you?

Like we keep saying this rank system is not harder ... quite the opposite it rewards hiding and being afk. For real.

The MM is 100 percent messed up.

Pubs I am practically winning every game, 3+ kills, 1000+ damage. And I'm not even that good.

Ranked no matter how much care I take as soon as someone spots me I'm dead. Had a game yesterday as Loba where a Pathfinder practically chased me across half of Kings Canyon before downing me.

700 LP in Silver I is as far as I can go.

Just go back to pre season 12 ranking system it was hard but fair imo and most players were at the rank they should be.