Input based matchmaking and permanent xim bans
Need input based matchmaking asap as well as coding to detect xim user... Tired of playing against kb+m cheats all night long
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where did I say the argument was about whether or not MnK and keyboard should be on console? it is and has been on console.
the aim assist issue is one i do agree with you on. but I don't control what others do. and it's one of those things where it helps emulators to varying degrees same as it helps the controllers. imo neither should have it, but many a console player would be dismayed if removed. unfortunately that's not up to me.
Microsoft and the devs take no issue with emulated mouse and keyboard. neither consider it cheating even with aim assist. I'm telling you the opinions of the writer in that article are wrong. as are his implications that Microsoft kicked or even tried to prevent anyone from using an emulator. Microsoft has tools to detect MnK emulators but back in October when some xim players got kicked, it wasn't by Microsoft. epic did that, and epic wasn't trying to kick emulator users, they were trying to keep pc players out of console matches. m guessing this issue is fixed now but back then in October as a pc player, you could start a match with a controller plugged into your computer cueing you into a console match, cuz crossplay. well, pc players where pulling the controller out and back then the game let the native controls take over. this was an attempt to detect wasd movement (not detect emulators) and kick pc players. some emulator users got kicked, most did not, and it did not keep pc players out. this is all information the article writer didn't know.
in response to your last paragraph, you do what you want. your money, your house. you game on what you want and how you want. I will never tell you how to play or spend your money. if I did, I was wrong to. you have your reasons for your gaming choices.
console gaming is doing fine and the last thing to hurt console gaming would be mouse and keyboard. you explain your ability to price and build a pc for similar cost of a next Gen system. well my friend, you are informed and savvy to the gaming market.. lots of people are not and for many other reasons like the perception that building a pc is difficult, or there are hackers on pc, or they don't want to build or maintain a pc, consoles offer a complete package deal. it's in one box and it plays games. yes, I know pc pre built systems exist but people are adverse to change. and most parents aren't gonna buy their kids a gaming pc for xmass. they buy them consoles by and large. I think it would be great in more parents bought kids gaming pcs but that's just isn't the reality we live in. they will get tablets or laptops for school at best and mostly console for gaming
@full951 I think we actually agree on the meat of my point here. I am simply trying to say that kbm and controller should NOT be in the same lobby...
You wanna play kbm but the devs don't support it? I'm sorry but you should be banned. If the devs had wanted it to be kbm compatible it would be.
And I still feel it's cheating and hold the fact that you will NEVER see a kbm player at an Xbox tournament as pretty solid proof.
Last thought here...for a game like apex there is really no reason why you need a xim. I can't imagine that a household would have an Xbox and the funds for a xim but not have a PC capable of running a free to play game. "But my friends all have xbox"...they all use controllers too...wanna play with them you should like LIKE them
It's not even a real mouse. Lol it's just a peripheral which looks like a mouse which controls the default analogue stick on a gamepad. I have used these devices before, and it is total utter s* compared to a real mouse. And when you factor in the Aim-assist most of the time it's actually worst than controlling the analogue stick normally through the gamepad.
You think you have cheating issues with crappy XIM then come to PC and you will see "real" cheating.
@HamoHitman wrote:@full951 I think we actually agree on the meat of my point here. I am simply trying to say that kbm and controller should NOT be in the same lobby...
You wanna play kbm but the devs don't support it? I'm sorry but you should be banned. If the devs had wanted it to be kbm compatible it would be.
And I still feel it's cheating and hold the fact that you will NEVER see a kbm player at an Xbox tournament as pretty solid proof.
Last thought here...for a game like apex there is really no reason why you need a xim. I can't imagine that a household would have an Xbox and the funds for a xim but not have a PC capable of running a free to play game. "But my friends all have xbox"...they all use controllers too...wanna play with them you should like LIKE them
well, it's not up to you or me if anyone gets banned for using mouse and keyboard. it's up to the devs really. and as you say, they have all the help in the world from Microsoft.. and no one ever has been banned. so. . I'm gonna go with the judgements of devs wether or not it's cheating.
I'd be really impressed if you can prove to me the devs of any game ever have or even have the intention of banning or blocking emulators. we've only seen blocking and separated lobbies of native support. that's it.
