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Season 13 the pubs MM was a lot stricter the first half for solo queuers. I myself had better teammates but the lobbies were significantly harder because everyone in them was diamond and up. For some reason they changed it back later in season 13.
Cause I'm under the impression he's talking about SBMM for everyone here, not just pre-mades.
- hayhor3 years agoHero@Gabrielmojo26 Yes that is what I'm saying. And I'm saying that a change to premade sbmm could affect solo queue negatively if they are not careful. I see lots of complaining by solo people about having to fight premades. The reality is sbmm tries to put premades with premades. I worry that if the premade sbmm changes they may combine premades with solos more than they do today.
- Gabrielmojo263 years agoSeasoned Ace@hayhor But that's not the discussion they're having on Twitter, and that's not what Samy's replies refer to in his latest tweets. This SBMM format, of matching randoms together, is based off only but one player in said squad. What defines "better player" hasn't been specified, but my experience as a solo player, is that I'm always matched with noobs, why, because I'm a higher end player. This is the current SBMM for everyone, not just pre-mades.
That being said, I wonder what makes this current SBMM format switch, as in, when does Apex say "Ok this guy has been carrying and babysitting for 10 games straight, and he's about to shut Apex off, so lets give him a master, or pred teammate, so he can benefit from this crappy SBMM". - pandareno19993 years agoHero+@hayhor Maybe it would be fair to say that any change to the MM will perhaps necessarily favor one or more groups of players at the expense of others?
- hayhor3 years agoHero@Gabrielmojo26 For me as a solo I only get better teammates in 2 scenarios-
1- If I drop and do little and die quite a few times in a row.
2- It's a morning on a Saturday or Sunday and no one else but decent players are playing. I'm talking like 8 am eastern. - hayhor3 years agoHero
@pandareno1999Yes that's my concern. I think the only real sbmm we have had that worked was the first half of season 13. It actually felt like the entire lobby was balanced.
- CCbathwater3 years agoSeasoned Ace
It doesn't matter. Let's say sbmm works off of a skill lvl ladder with like 30 lvls. I'm lvl 21, my premade teammates are lvl 8 and 11, we score 40. Just add like two extra points to duo premade teams and 5 points to a premade trio to counter the comm thing or whatever, then we score 45 and should play other 45 teams primarily, with a possibility of also getting teams scoring a little to each side of 45 for quicker mm. You get the idea. The point system could be anything, but an avg team score would work better than just "lobbies follow the highest skilled player on the team", that's no fun for anyone unless you're all of equal skill. Which seems to be Snipe's problem, that his wife and he are not of the same skill.
@Gabrielmojo26"when does Apex say "Ok this guy has been carrying and babysitting for 10 games straight, and he's about to shut Apex off, so lets give him a master, or pred teammate"
About once every 4 seasons.
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