Intriguing tweet from Samy Duc regarding SBMM changes

@hayhor I don't think it's necessarily about pre-mades, but more so that it's solely based off one player.

If I'm a high Diamond solo queue player, my chances of getting matched with a master, or pred, are minimal as opposed to being the higher skilled player matched with two lower skilled ones.

That being said, 8 out of 10 games, I'm automatically babysitting two teammates just because I'm a solo queue player with decent skills at Apex, no wonder the solo queue experience is a chore 80% of the time.

@Asmodeus566 I agree with you. But what I'm saying is if you pit 3 randoms of equal skill against a team using coms of equal skill the team using coms will win more often.

@Gabrielmojo26 Snipe specifically complained about premades. The dev specifically responded to snipe about how premades are defined. The post is about premades. My comments are how the change may affect solo queuers. It may be a negative for solo q.

Season 13 the pubs MM was a lot stricter the first half for solo queuers. I myself had better teammates but the lobbies were significantly harder because everyone in them was diamond and up. For some reason they changed it back later in season 13.

@hayhor So what you're saying, is this SBMM format, and tweet from Samy, is only applied to pre-mades, and not as a whole for both solo players and duos being matched as a squad?

Cause I'm under the impression he's talking about SBMM for everyone here, not just pre-mades.

@Gabrielmojo26 Yes that is what I'm saying. And I'm saying that a change to premade sbmm could affect solo queue negatively if they are not careful. I see lots of complaining by solo people about having to fight premades. The reality is sbmm tries to put premades with premades. I worry that if the premade sbmm changes they may combine premades with solos more than they do today.

@hayhor But that's not the discussion they're having on Twitter, and that's not what Samy's replies refer to in his latest tweets. This SBMM format, of matching randoms together, is based off only but one player in said squad. What defines "better player" hasn't been specified, but my experience as a solo player, is that I'm always matched with noobs, why, because I'm a higher end player. This is the current SBMM for everyone, not just pre-mades.

That being said, I wonder what makes this current SBMM format switch, as in, when does Apex say "Ok this guy has been carrying and babysitting for 10 games straight, and he's about to shut Apex off, so lets give him a master, or pred teammate, so he can benefit from this crappy SBMM".

@hayhor Maybe it would be fair to say that any change to the MM will perhaps necessarily favor one or more groups of players at the expense of others?

@Gabrielmojo26 For me as a solo I only get better teammates in 2 scenarios-
1- If I drop and do little and die quite a few times in a row.
2- It's a morning on a Saturday or Sunday and no one else but decent players are playing. I'm talking like 8 am eastern.