Us controller users are at a major disadvantage since we cannot strafe around while searching dead players loot boxes.This has gotten me killed TONS of times mid-battle since its practically suicide to attempt to loot while under fire. Now, of course you can say "dont loot while under fire then" But heres the thing... Mouse and keyboard users can grab dead players armor to get an instant recharge or a quick upgrade off a dead enemy with higher tier armor. Which is a legitimate tactic at the moment.Even outside of combat people will do it to avoid sneak attacks from hitting them in the head and so on.A tactic that myself and other controller users cannot employ.Its simply a handicap.What i propose is forcing all users to be locked in place while looting death boxes. You SHOULD be vulnerable while looting death boxes anyway.

As a controller player on PC I agree with @VenderAzura I've made the decision to take the alternative peripheral, I have to accept all the benefits and drawbacks that come with it.If we say that mouse/kb users shouldn't be able to move whilst looting death boxes, do we also say that controllers shouldn't get aim assist because mouse/kb players don't get it?? (even though it's minimal in this game)Do we block the use of mouse buttons 3,4,5 because only some gaming mice and not all mice have these buttons??? the list could go on.

I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you are referring to @VenderAzura otherwise i'd be really embarrassed for you that you didn't read the first line of my response. As a controller user on PC I just don't agree with you. Yes, there's minimal aim assist, but that's not really the point.You're argument essentially boils down to 'I can't have it so you shouldn't have it' well that applies just as much to kb/mouse players with aim assist- so denying them it would be double standards.Same with my explanation about mouse keys - do you ban mouse button's 3-9+ because not all mice have them? Do you ban quick ping shortcuts on keyboard that we have to use the scroll wheel for on controller? - if you don't, again double standards.It's entirely possible that we just have different play styles, perhaps i'm more conservative so don't rush in on deathboxes, maybe I loot quicker - so this issue just doesn't happen to me, but not once have I thought that being able to wiggle a bit would have saved me being shot in a hail or AR fire or a grande being thrown next to the deathbox i'm looting.Either way, i'm not trolling, I just don't agree.

Firstly, at no point have i said that any aim assist is a balance for restricting movement. I'm just pointing out there's one advantage using that set up, and there's another advantage using another set up.Secondly, I do change my opinions, but based on the evidence gathered and presented. When I made that post earlier in the week i'd not clocked up as many hours as i have now, and i was still switching between kb/mouse and pad to see what felt right for me. At that time I was confused as i'd seen posts on other forums and reddit hyping up the ability of autoaim in this game. I've since clocked up the majority of my total game time on pad and have a much better feel for the minimal aim assist i feel exists. I've also seen a number of video's like the one posted in this thread where people test the aim assist and prove there is some there. To clarify my position I think there's a slight aim assist - i mentioned that in comment #5 on this topic, i'll add it below:"If we say that mouse/kb users shouldn't be able to move whilst looting death boxes, do we also say that controllers shouldn't get aim assist because mouse/kb players don't get it?? (even though it's minimal in this game)"Finally you've once again sidestepped my follow up discussion points on the differences of pinging between kb/mouse and pads as well as mouse buttons 3-9+Seems like you want a change because it'd benefit you, rather than actually discuss it.

If you used a controller you wouldnt be saying there is some advantage going on with aim assist.Its obvious you are trying to gain a sympathetic response with that statement.I mean, really its painfully obvious.Aim is superior with mouse and keyboard and there is no need for controllers to be at a disadvantage due to a simple design flaw unrelated to the peripheral in question.I really dont get it. Lets nerf the controllers ability to loot... Thatll fix him for that auto aim that hardly exists!Why is this being argued... Its like raising the gas price because a bird * on your windshield.Have you ever been in a situation where your team says "go get the gold armor off his body! quick!" And i have to reply with "I cant! im using a controller and im not allowed to..." And then you watch as an enemy runs over and takes the armor while he wiggles around and runs off with it.Yeah, i have. All too often.You guys can sit here and troll to your hearts content but this is seriously a problem.

@Coyotekins_YouTB wrote:I guess i should be more blunt.I dont believe your telling the truth you use a controller as your main peripheral on this game.Your acting here like i have some sort of super power and not being able to loot and move is balancing it.If aiming with a controller was easier then everyone would be doing it. There is only two reasons why people use controllers on this game.1. You have a physical disability 2. Its comfortableWell, fair enough for being blunt... you're wrong (i fall into the 2nd of your categories), if you look across my posts where people has posted control based issues i've always been consistent in stating that i was using a controller. Then again, you're probably so deep into your conspiracy theory that you now feel that I've staged 2 weeks worth of forum posts stating I play on controller - just so I can come and troll you on this post, 2 weeks later...Now we've got that out the way do you have some comment to add to my discussion point? or are you one of those forum posters that just says they want something because 'I want it so it's right'Just to recap -1. If kb/ mouse loose a benefit of their peripheral, should controllers lose a benefit of their peripheral?2. If you're changing this difference to make it fair should you also adjust the ping system that works differently between the peripherals to similarly make it fair?3. Should we ban mouse buttons 3-9+ given that not all mouse's (mice?) have those buttons

Looting deathboxes with controller is unfair

39 Replies

full951
7 years ago
what's preventing you from moving the left stick?
VenderAzura
7 years ago
I could see this if the game was crossplay... But there is no crossplay.. You are choosing to have that disability, but at the same time you get the aim assist so why are you crying now ? I mean if its such a big deal then go back to keyboard and mouse then.. Oh wait ya because then you wouldn't have your aim assist right ? If you don't see where I am getting at then you must know its not fair that people using controllers get aim assist on pc, but you don't see me coming on here making a scene. OH WAIT I DID NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Coyotekins_YouT
7 years ago
The left stick moves your character. The left stick navigates the menus while looting... Making it impossible to move.
And the other guy replying is obviously a troll so he gets no reply.
There is practically no auto aim with controllers and this has been tested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I31DZP2xbGk
theWonderChris
7 years ago
As a controller player on PC I agree with @VenderAzura
I've made the decision to take the alternative peripheral, I have to accept all the benefits and drawbacks that come with it.
If we say that mouse/kb users shouldn't be able to move whilst looting death boxes, do we also say that controllers shouldn't get aim assist because mouse/kb players don't get it?? (even though it's minimal in this game)
Do we block the use of mouse buttons 3,4,5 because only some gaming mice and not all mice have these buttons??? the list could go on.
Coyotekins_YouT
7 years ago
If you used a controller you wouldnt be saying there is some advantage going on with aim assist.
Its obvious you are trying to gain a sympathetic response with that statement.
I mean, really its painfully obvious.
Aim is superior with mouse and keyboard and there is no need for controllers to be at a disadvantage due to a simple design flaw unrelated to the peripheral in question.
I really dont get it. Lets nerf the controllers ability to loot... Thatll fix him for that auto aim that hardly exists!
Why is this being argued... Its like raising the gas price because a bird * on your windshield.
Have you ever been in a situation where your team says "go get the gold armor off his body! quick!" And i have to reply with "I cant! im using a controller and im not allowed to..." And then you watch as an enemy runs over and takes the armor while he wiggles around and runs off with it.
Yeah, i have. All too often.
You guys can sit here and troll to your hearts content but this is seriously a problem.
theWonderChris
7 years ago
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you are referring to @VenderAzura otherwise i'd be really embarrassed for you that you didn't read the first line of my response.
As a controller user on PC I just don't agree with you. Yes, there's minimal aim assist, but that's not really the point.
You're argument essentially boils down to 'I can't have it so you shouldn't have it' well that applies just as much to kb/mouse players with aim assist- so denying them it would be double standards.
Same with my explanation about mouse keys - do you ban mouse button's 3-9+ because not all mice have them? Do you ban quick ping shortcuts on keyboard that we have to use the scroll wheel for on controller? - if you don't, again double standards.
It's entirely possible that we just have different play styles, perhaps i'm more conservative so don't rush in on deathboxes, maybe I loot quicker - so this issue just doesn't happen to me, but not once have I thought that being able to wiggle a bit would have saved me being shot in a hail or AR fire or a grande being thrown next to the deathbox i'm looting.
Either way, i'm not trolling, I just don't agree.
Flashshark1980
7 years ago
which keys do you use on keyboard to move while looting?
WASD doesnt work for me...
Do I have to set alternative keys?
Coyotekins_YouT
7 years ago
I guess i should be more blunt.
I dont believe your telling the truth you use a controller as your main peripheral on this game.
Your acting here like i have some sort of super power and not being able to loot and move is balancing it.
If aiming with a controller was easier then everyone would be doing it. There is only two reasons why people use controllers on this game.
1. You have a physical disability
2. Its comfortable
P0werEdge
7 years ago
There is auto aim assist, it basically confirms it on first comment of its video by the video creator:
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Pinned by Mirko
After playing this game for some more time, i have noticed that aim assist kicks in whilst shooting! Still not that strong though..
"
So basically its a handicap + advantage you chose yourself
theWonderChris
7 years ago
@Coyotekins_YouTB wrote:
I guess i should be more blunt.
I dont believe your telling the truth you use a controller as your main peripheral on this game.
Your acting here like i have some sort of super power and not being able to loot and move is balancing it.
If aiming with a controller was easier then everyone would be doing it. There is only two reasons why people use controllers on this game.
1. You have a physical disability
2. Its comfortable
Well, fair enough for being blunt... you're wrong (i fall into the 2nd of your categories), if you look across my posts where people has posted control based issues i've always been consistent in stating that i was using a controller. Then again, you're probably so deep into your conspiracy theory that you now feel that I've staged 2 weeks worth of forum posts stating I play on controller - just so I can come and troll you on this post, 2 weeks later...
Now we've got that out the way do you have some comment to add to my discussion point? or are you one of those forum posters that just says they want something because 'I want it so it's right'
Just to recap -
1. If kb/ mouse loose a benefit of their peripheral, should controllers lose a benefit of their peripheral?
2. If you're changing this difference to make it fair should you also adjust the ping system that works differently between the peripherals to similarly make it fair?
3. Should we ban mouse buttons 3-9+ given that not all mouse's (mice?) have those buttons