After Season 13 Ranked changes, public lobbies have become so much worse. I'll provide some examples why a penalty NEEDS to be added to PUBS.1st) I'll start with YOUR own squad, leaving early seriously LOWERS your chances of Winning an APEX Match, leaving YOUR Squad as a DUO or Yourself as a SOLO, having to go against 3 player Squads.2nd) if you retain your 3 player squad the whole match, you are constantly being 3rd partied by remaining SOLO's or DUO's that have had their squad-mates quit early, because their best chance at winning a match is to 3rd party, being that they are 1 or 2 team-mates down.All of this quitting early is making APEX much LESS FUN to play, and drives players to play a different game, & that is the opposite of what Respawn&EA want.The MOST Enjoyable part of this game is fighting it out between 2 full squads that are at similar skill levels, & having all these early quitters is making that IDEAL BR scenario much LESS common than it used to be.The Reason I'm saying all this is because I Love this game, it's truly the BEST FPS shooters out there. The Movement & Gunplay at its core is the BEST.

I disagree with you.By my opinion this option for players to quit in TRIOS is making it more fun for most of players.If you wanna wait, you can wait, if you dont you dont have to. I think its alright if its not Ranked.You need to think, why people play TRIOS instead of Ranked ?They want less looting, less waiting, more shooting, some of them want hotdrops. 90% of TRIOS player want just that instant action.Not everyone has all days to play video games and waiting those extra few minutes can make this game really annoying for people who have one or two hours per day to play video games because they have stuff to do...TRIOS is perfect as it is. If they leave you can always take Marksman or Sniper and 3rd party from range which is also fun and you dont get this playstyle from you teammates most of time anyway because players in Apex mostly just push like crazy.I may agree with you if Control mode was permanent, but it isnt.You also can just play Ranked if you have problems with TRIOS I guess ? Its always there for you...

@KelRiever wrote:Thing is, you can't penalize people into something, it's sort of like the first abusive answer to everything.Penalties are fine but not without rewards too. Nobody has to play this game and you can look at the massive failure of Overwatch to see what penalty after penalty after penalty leads to, it's a dead game. The problem is there are core rules problems with Apex, and people do not want to put up with them, so they leave. You're like punishing someone who is being punished already and being like, "Yeah! That'll show you! MORE BEATINGS!" I agree with a leaver penalty but there has to be a greater reward for staying too. If you make someone have to sit around for 2 minutes, only to watch their whole team die, all you've done is make people waste more time not playing this game.Exactly!I keep saying, if they want this game to actually PLAY like a Battle Royal Survival Game, they need to reward SURVIVAL with more than a few extra XP.Start giving Crafting Metals for Top 3 (25/15/10), or even top 5 (25/20/15/10/5) finishes. People like their skins, let them slowly earn them by playing the game the right way.Change kills trackers to be both KILLS + ASSISTS, so people don't feel they have to ignore their allies need for help to chase down and confirm every kill.Heck, let it count as an Assist if you Revived the person who got the kill.MORE CARROT, LESS STICK!That is how you get people to play the whole thing out.

Thing is, you can't penalize people into something, it's sort of like the first abusive answer to everything.Penalties are fine but not without rewards too. Nobody has to play this game and you can look at the massive failure of Overwatch to see what penalty after penalty after penalty leads to, it's a dead game. The problem is there are core rules problems with Apex, and people do not want to put up with them, so they leave. You're like punishing someone who is being punished already and being like, "Yeah! That'll show you! MORE BEATINGS!" I agree with a leaver penalty but there has to be a greater reward for staying too. If you make someone have to sit around for 2 minutes, only to watch their whole team die, all you've done is make people waste more time not playing this game.Revive mechanics come from other games first, and one problem is maybe they aren't so good in a Battle Royale game anyway? Revive mechanics in a co-op game like when they were popular in Left4Dead, for example, make perfect sense. Even in pvp Left4Dead its 2 teams, not a ridiculous Battle Royale.Control is a good example of how you don't need revive mechanics to make a game mode good. Of course, it means you have to find something else to do with lifeline, but there is a LOT that has to change about revive mechanics before you beat people with penalties and somehow expect this game to live on.I'm all for it, just saying you can't only offer punishments as an answer.

@SILVERisSORRY No thanks. If I couldn't leave toxic randoms and people that don't know how to drop I wouldn't play. I am quitting a lot of games now. I've started to just leave the hot drop games when I go down too. I assume the person that did the drop expects that.

@c0ld1@hayhor@KelRieverDrop ship with freedom to drop whenever and wherever, including solo dropping, is a mainspring of this game. Yes, a lot of players misuse their freedom, but that doesn't make that freedom any less important. I certainly don't want my agency curtailed because someone else disagrees with how I exercise it. And they do. A lot.Hayhor, random spawns sounds like the first step toward a playoff-style game. Am I making a leap in my head that isn't obvious to everyone else? I do that a lot....Kel, I feel as if, lurking behind your "people could still run off" remark is an embryo idea for having an invisible tether where teammates are physically prevented from moving more than x number of meters away from their teammates. 95% of the time I would chew off my own leg to get away if that's what it came to.

Penalty for Leaving a Match Early NEEDS to be applied to PUBS

53 Replies

Awhoo_Thunder
3 years ago
I disagree with you.
By my opinion this option for players to quit in TRIOS is making it more fun for most of players.
If you wanna wait, you can wait, if you dont you dont have to. I think its alright if its not Ranked.
You need to think, why people play TRIOS instead of Ranked ?
They want less looting, less waiting, more shooting, some of them want hotdrops. 90% of TRIOS player want just that instant action.
Not everyone has all days to play video games and waiting those extra few minutes can make this game really annoying for people who have one or two hours per day to play video games because they have stuff to do...
TRIOS is perfect as it is. If they leave you can always take Marksman or Sniper and 3rd party from range which is also fun and you dont get this playstyle from you teammates most of time anyway because players in Apex mostly just push like crazy.
I may agree with you if Control mode was permanent, but it isnt.
You also can just play Ranked if you have problems with TRIOS I guess ? Its always there for you...
Anonymous
3 years ago
Approved
@SILVERisSORRY

no
DankToliet
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Popa2caps What other option is there then?
KelRiever
3 years ago
Thing is, you can't penalize people into something, it's sort of like the first abusive answer to everything.
Penalties are fine but not without rewards too. Nobody has to play this game and you can look at the massive failure of Overwatch to see what penalty after penalty after penalty leads to, it's a dead game.
The problem is there are core rules problems with Apex, and people do not want to put up with them, so they leave. You're like punishing someone who is being punished already and being like, "Yeah! That'll show you! MORE BEATINGS!" I agree with a leaver penalty but there has to be a greater reward for staying too. If you make someone have to sit around for 2 minutes, only to watch their whole team die, all you've done is make people waste more time not playing this game.
Revive mechanics come from other games first, and one problem is maybe they aren't so good in a Battle Royale game anyway? Revive mechanics in a co-op game like when they were popular in Left4Dead, for example, make perfect sense. Even in pvp Left4Dead its 2 teams, not a ridiculous Battle Royale.
Control is a good example of how you don't need revive mechanics to make a game mode good. Of course, it means you have to find something else to do with lifeline, but there is a LOT that has to change about revive mechanics before you beat people with penalties and somehow expect this game to live on.
I'm all for it, just saying you can't only offer punishments as an answer.
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@SILVERisSORRY No thanks. If I couldn't leave toxic randoms and people that don't know how to drop I wouldn't play. I am quitting a lot of games now. I've started to just leave the hot drop games when I go down too. I assume the person that did the drop expects that.
Awhoo_Thunder
3 years ago
@hayhor
Why not hotfropping with them I mean you gonna leave anyway so... It really doesnt make any sense leaving in this case or does it ? 🙂
Also you say that you dont like toxic players, but your behaviour seems pretty toxic to me...
They did nothing wrong when dropping into hot area, they just wanna play the shooter game just so you know...
CCbathwater
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Awhoo_Thunder Don't know about hayhor but I don't want to reward their behavior by dumb-dropping with them. And as it's no fun at all, why on earth suffer in Fragment when you can just queue up again.
Anonymous
3 years ago
Approved
@DankToliet

What?
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@Awhoo_Thunder Because they all quit first anyway. What's the difference.
DeepBeats
Seasoned Adventurer
3 years ago
@hayhor You know i've started to do the same in Worlds Edge, if someone hot drops in fragment i insta leave the game. Let him die alone.