So I just played for well over an hour after work, I won 1 game as crypto along with an awesome mirage, we owned and carried the 3rd doing my challenges, and I kept playing casuals.Literally every other game besides that win, I had bad randoms who die and leave with 24 damage dealt, and I end up solo in all those games.These people are toxic, they insist on playing Apex, only to find out that they suck and rage quit pretty much every game, as soon as things aren't working out for them.Casuals are barely playable.[EDIT]I actually forgot to include an important clause. The bann timer for casual should be separate from ranked, and start with 5 minutes as well, but only increase with 5 minute stagnant increments, up to a maximum of one hour, and reset to 0 weekly.This should strike the right balance making it forgiving enough for people to drop out for valid reasons, and not be hindered by a lasting bann that won't allow them to que the next time they log into the game. But bothering enough to whip habitual quitters in line.

They should just remove any exp gains from playing a match if you leave early in standard mode,hit peoples battle pass progression. 😛If you throw leaver penalty into standard mode the player base would drop horrendously. 😛

@MandatoryIDtag wrote:They should just remove any exp gains from playing a match if you leave early in standard mode,hit peoples battle pass progression. 😛If you throw leaver penalty into standard mode the player base would drop horrendously. 😛You think so? Even a mild lockout with weekly reset? I mentioned no longer than an hour as an absolute upper limit, but it might as well be 30 min.I think people will just adjust their behavior, at least, a vast majority would. MOBA's do exactly that, and those games have tons of players.

Normal game is like training ground/practice where people just chill and take it easy. If they leave after that die, I'm fine with that, there is nothing to loose.I don't agree with pinalty here. We don't have to put pinalty every where.

@asukojo wrote:Normal game is like training ground/practice where people just chill and take it easy. If they leave after that die, I'm fine with that, there is nothing to loose.I don't agree with pinalty here. We don't have to put pinalty every where.Not really comparable to training ground to be honest, not at all in fact.The fact is that casual games do count towards all your stats, your KDR, season wins, average damage, badge progression etc.Repeatedly leaving games, and making a habit out of doing so doesn't fall under the banner of "taking it easy" and "chilling".Players who want a chill, decorated game can buy Divinity II original sin on the playstation store for 40% off right now, and experience a chill laidback game with 9.5 score from both critics and players.Pvp games never have been, and never will be a place to "just chill" who feels relaxed getting owned and rage quitting games?

I agree with the OP, everyone takes a break from ranked game every now and then, either having a bad day and not playing with the best performance, or just wanna chill and play with less tension and focus, but that doesn't mean that i want to get abandoned in the first 5 mins and lose the game and totally waste 10-15 mins without at least proper amount of kills.

Please introduce deserter penalty to casual games

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Wingmannedbro
7 years ago
@GRiPSViGiL wrote:
@WingmannedbroWell Respawns netcode affects my enjoyment so if they don't want me rage quitting on their casual groups they should fix how their game works...er doesn't work for 15 ping.
Strange, I live very close to my data center, and I have 10 to 15 ping with no problems.
I only lagg out when I get someone on the squad who connected to european servers from accross the world.
During certain hours U.S. players attempt playing EU games when their que times increase at night.
GRiPSViGiL
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
@Wingmannedbro Oddly enough I get a much better experience connecting to the 40 ping option but it is still sub par.
Taserface-ZA
7 years ago
@GRiPSViGiL some of us don't have servers and have to play with a 200ms ping...it really sucks. Why is there no African server?
Anonymous
7 years ago
@asukojo is it though? Normal game is easily the hardest game mode in this game. Ranked is easy compared to normal game unless you are predator.
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
7 years ago
@Wingmannedbro I will admit I abandon some games/players because the players are just bad gamers.

I’m not talking about being a bad player, i’m talking about being rude to the team. 99% of the time you’re the third person to the other 2 party. I’ve had so many rounds in which I down 2 people from a squad and the third gets me. They then revive their teammate, loot the death boxes and revive me. Leaving me with nothing. When people start doing that garbage I just run off solo or will leave the game.

Not a fan of people who don’t go by the revive, heal, loot. The loot hogs hust make me run off.
Biochemikas
7 years ago
Hotdrop -> die -> leave -> repeat. That's how we all play solo casuals. if you don't like that, go play ranked - that mode is literally made to be the opposite of casual.
Or play with full squad. As a bonus, enemies will be full squads too, so the whole experience will be different.
P.S. If you want your 24 damage teammates to stay a bit, show some flashy badges and kill some ppl - they'll stay as long as you're entertaining enough to watch and are moving straight towards their banners (most likely they don't press shift and are constantly staring at your badges). I don't show my badges for that reason, but that's what I've noticed my badges are doing (surprisingly, the 28 elite streak badge seems to be very well regarded).
P.P.S. I find that the same effect works on me too - if I see 4k damage and 20 kill badges, I sometimes stay. Although the biggest factor in my case is my evaluation of how likely it is for me to be respawned within the next 60 seconds.
MandatoryIDtag
7 years ago
@Biochemikas likewise, i'll stick around if my squad isn't hugging a rock in the middle of nowhere...staring intently at a medkit for 4 minutes before picking it up and looting the next item at an equally painful pace or just outright abandoning me because they can't make the banner recovery safely.
Either way standard should stay casual i guess, as you stated we do have ranked for tryharding.
DoYaSeeMe
7 years ago
@Biochemikas I never leave. I hate it when teammates quit early, especially when I end up in the last 2 squads and have to 1v3 or 1v2 or have daily challenges that involve teammates getting healed / phased / ziplined / revived / etc..

The leavers problem needs to be addressed in casual too, but not as harsh as in ranked.
Biochemikas
7 years ago
@DoYaSeeMeNah, casual solo games are best left fast. Die -> leave -> new game. Nice and fast. With teammates leaving, it also gives me plenty of solo games - a big bonus (since they don't want to allow starting solo without teammates, I'll take what I can get 🙂 (hmm, based on my own comment, I should hide my banner to get even more solo games)).
It's really very easy to grab 2 people for a premade, when you want to play 3-man to the end. So there's really no need to interfere with the dynamics of the solo casual.
Wingmannedbro
7 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag wrote:
@Biochemikas likewise, i'll stick around if my squad isn't hugging a rock in the middle of nowhere...staring intently at a medkit for 4 minutes before picking it up and looting the next item at an equally painful pace or just outright abandoning me because they can't make the banner recovery safely.
Either way standard should stay casual i guess, as you stated we do have ranked for tryharding.
Well, casual would still be casual, no pressure to tryhard since your rating isn't on the line.
The only thing that would change is that habitually quitting out of games the instant someone goes down is being met with a mild consequence, but just harsh enough to get people to not constantly quit out of games.

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