Matchmaking crazy

1 assist and 50 damage in 8 games is very interesting. Hopefully, you were playing Ranked. 

Maybe play Unranked or Wildcard. Get those numbers up. 

The matchmaking in this game is usually pretty strained, but it always seems to be at its absolute worst at the very end of a season or at the very beginning of a new season. Welcome to the ninth circle of gaming hell.

Matchmaking complaints are overrated.

We're all just pressing buttons and keys. The goal is to press buttons and keys faster than eachother. I couldn't imagine complaining about other players being better or worst than me. Who cares? Get a job. Make some money 😆 

"I couldn't imagine complaining about other players being better or worst than me. Who cares? Get a job. Make some money"

Okay, that's funny. And obviously true. But is also practically a formula for player dissatisfaction. And dissatisfied players don't buy things in the store. Or worse, they leave for some other game. Some other game that can at least offer some semblance of fairness in matchmaking.

I guess that's all a long way of saying, getting beat sometimes is one thing. Getting beat every time is something else. Every time on drop is something else again. Getting beat on drop every single time by people who are obviously professionals and/or cheaters.... you tell me.

In Apex same as in basically every other fps shooter game matchmaking was and probably never will be perfect, not sure (not smart enough) why people can't figure it out but that's the thing we need to accept.

Apex had kinda better version of matchmaking (higher ranked lobbies) but it all went to even worse state around season 20 when Respawn tailored towards streamers / pros and allowed Preds/Masters to farm down to Gold level players. Mainly because of queue times (used to be 10-20 min for one game for Preds / Masters), partly because those crybabies asked for easier games to grind and make streaming money from, partly because community kept smurfing and asked 1.5 tier difference protection to be removed to "play with friends".

These days (past 5+ seasons) you can't really objectively judge matchmaking as:

1. too many hackers around = your gold player gaming chair owners making 10+ kills in Diamond lobbies
2. too many smurfs = these days people seem to buy or boost even level 300+ profiles that are still smurfs from some bot farms aka in addition to your default skin <50 lvl you now have bunch of much higher ranked profiles yet still smurfs clearly
3. "good old" big part of community that come to ranked to "have fun" = high level but achieved by endless grind and camping not by skill and competition aka your higher ranked players that regularly underperfom
4. time to time like 1 in 10 games you will just be fed to higher ranked players (your games of say being plat with gold randoms in otherwise Diamond dominated lobby after 5 game losing streak), current matchmaking just throw those games your way at regular randomness and you just need to accept your faith that indeed you have 0% chance of doing anything and will be lucky to place higher than 20th

Also people just can't communicate and teamwork even after X years in the game, they still think that today will be the day where they just do their own thing and magically own the lobby...braindead. Games that actually are satisfying no matter the result at least for me are the ones where teammates want and do teamwork, communicate and do their best even if that is not enough to gain at least 1 kp.

RockDokRock​ hope you are not one of those duos that I mentioned above, I personally find them the worst = false sense of "hey we are two, it is better to do our thing vs following random and create 3 man synergy". I never basically find a duo that is willing to teamwork, it is always either you do their thing or it is 2 vs everyone / 1 vs everyone model.

Overall I can't complain having super bad teammates overall, these days in Plat3+ lobbies it is just about which server you play and how many hacker teams will be present = whom they will choose to annihilate first as you can't beat them most of the time.
EMEA is unplayable pretty much 24/7, NA is bearable until you run in current split P1+, Diamonds = they basically are 3 man hacker stack where at least one person is full on aimbotting and most of time at least 1-2 are walling as well.

I also posted my opinion about matchmaking. I feel the same way.

I agree, the matchmaking is truly awful. Myself as a 9 to 5 working father should not be placed with the top Apex predators in the world. Is the game population that low to where someone who maybe puts in like 5 hours a week should be placed in these lobbies? It's just amazing that they cant include a decent matchmaking system.

They can, only they did exact opposite - put 9 to 5 working fathers into crybaby streamer/pro lobbies because it was too hard for them to play against eachother instead of farming 20+ fathers per game and calling that a skill.

I guess stats, revenue figures show that they do attract enough fanboys/fangirls who fund their streaming and the game vs them leaving and taking that following away from EA. Plus people who are against hacking and current situation e.g. me are still here... ok in my case not for 1000+ games but for <400, yet I am still here, generating stats of active players etc. so EA wins until we all really really quit because majority of us are still I would assume Gold+ maybe even Plat+ players = if majority of these quit = Preds would face again mostly Preds or EA would force Gold and below into Pred lobbies that would be amazingly fun to watch.

Well a few weeks on and the same problem.  I hardly play trios anymore as there is little point; just smashed every game.

I suspect the casuals have moved to Wildcard or just quit all together.  I have had great games in wildcard but trios is simply a no-go.  The skill graph always skews hard right and I'm not at that level, I'm just not.

Not sure where to go from here.  Day 0 player and my playtime has tanked over the last few weeks because it just feels pointless.  I'm not so sure it's the matchmaking anymore, I suspect people have moved on to other games or play Wildcard.  Match making can only work with what's in front of it and if the player base isn't there you will just get a sweat fest which I have no interest in.  Beginning of the end?  Not sure.

Honestly I think pubs (trios) indication of team's strength is a gimmick. E.g. I grinded out battle pass after I could no longer bear to play ranked and in ALL games (20+ I would estimate) I was NEVER on the left side of the graph, more often than not I was either top squad or very close to that as per indication.

Yet in reality results are / were as per Apex:

• in many cases while being "good team" my teammates dropped us fragment or any other hot drop with like 5+ teams and died basically doing at most 3 KP, more often 0
• in many cases even when trying we faced really good / better teams and got killed in fair 50/50 fights
• in some cases we did win the game but mostly because we survived early game shinanigans = braindead plays, respawned, by the time of reset there were <10 squads left, we rotated into end zone and defended from good positions well
• in my 2nd game (as posted below) my teammates died off the drop in Fragment while I clutched and ended up 2nd almost clutching 1v3 with 7+1 (two of last 3 were knocked = would yield me 10+1 if I would clutch) and 3k game...

It would be interesting to know how pubs matchmaking works but I rather feel there like Preds in ranked as in many cases people in pubs do no pay any attention or clearly lack mechanical / strategical knowledge = I would rank them low gold or lower which for me (Diamond+) player most of the time is a field day. Why game gives me such pubs in trios...I have no clue nor really enjoy the fact as I always like the competition.