Ranked Matchmaking is Extremely Unfair for Solo Queue Players

We just need a Stay With Them feature after each match. Therefore, if you find a decent team then you can requeue immediately. No going back to the lobby, sending friend request, game invites, etc. It's a convenient option, basically. 

More people will play Ranked "consistently" if the quality of teammates were better. I'm hard stuck P3 and can't play the game because most randoms don't want to play zone, which is the point of BR. Everyone goes to zone too late just to be gate kept. 

My experience with "sticking with the team" since season 8 in ranked has been such that most people are just not ready to grind, don't have time and most importantly don't want to grind.

Since I have started ranked most people if not all of them have had superficial goals in mind:

• lower skill players to get out of gold -> reach plat
• average/good players -> reach D4
• when Masters became "free to take" -> reach borderline Masters

Basically most players aim to gain a badge, bragging right with minimal effort and then quit ranked for the split, switch to smurfing or other games.

Even for me as sweaty and old school player with goal to improve, play vs best, grind it was really hard to go against basically hackers time and time again as soon as I first reached D4.
The wall skill wise and even more so motivation wise was there since my start of ranked = I had never (till this season :D) issues going through Plat lobbies, with 3stack it took me 1 day to get from whatever level I was demoted to P4, 2-3 weeks depending how many Preds were still in lower lobbies to get from P4 to D4, then the rest of the split was just endless losing streak and going between D4 and D3 in early days and D4 and D1 in later seasons yet the feeling of never being competitive, able to win Diamond lobby game has been there and with few exceptions always been the case...mostly because you can't outfrag good player that use hacks or in some cases even bad players that use hacks.

Only viable theoretical route I see in Apex / saw in Apex was to get 3stack that is ready to play the game the right way -> grind ranked to make sure we are on the same page -> go into tournaments and really aim towards Tier 2,3,4,5 but competitive level where hacking still is present yet not as blunt the higher you go (assumption) as in lower tier tournaments noone cares and still top 1-3 teams are just bluntly hacking, people leaving games during the tournament game because of that.

p.s. As many say pros might actually be not so "superhuman" but you can know that for sure only when you make it there which probably in Apex requires hacking, exploiting the game, inputs etc.
Typical recent example I have seen was in Valorant, where current top individual player ASPAS during VTC showed ~20-25% headshot rate in combination with very high k/d, while some random ranked players in mid tier (silver/gold) lobbies show constant 35-40% headshot rate (probably with hacks) => it is harder to play in low tier ranked than in main tournament (not really but I hope you get the idea).
Quite sure in Apex it would be the same - if you ask pros to do some reaction time tests or aimlabs / kovaaks tests their scores might even be below yours.

My experience with "sticking with the team" since season 8 in ranked has been such that most people are just not ready to grind, don't have time and most importantly don't want to grind.

Bruh, what are you talking about? There has never been a SWT feature in Apex. Stop playing with me!!!!

I'm all for a discussion, but you're wrong. Unless you have evidence. Before the "current requeue feature" was added "everyone" went back to the lobby. From there you could see game invites, friend requests, etc. to link up with previous teammates.

Whoever ideal it was to add a "party only/solo requeue option" messed up the previous setup players used to link up. 

So, are you implying that Apex has had a SWT feature in the past? If so, post the evidence.

I just finished reading your whole comment. Listen, you're hella smart. You know a lot of specific stuff.

I understand your issue with hackers/cheaters. I personally don't see a lot of hackers/cheaters in my games. I've posted some of my gameplay in my other posts. 

Click the link below to see what a Party Up (stay with team) feature looks like. Matchmaking is not the issue overall. The current matchmaking system needs support. If the matchmaking system, metaphorically, is the trunk of the tree then it's time to add some branches. I mean 2+2=4. I don't know why we're having such a hard time with this. As an American who loves his people and country, this is embarrassing that we can't think straight about simple things. It's pathetic!!!!

Rocket League Party Up Option

Lastly, if we think it's okay for a "soccar" game to have better features than Apex then we deserve to lose. That's my same mindset when playing with randoms. If we don't play the "right way" then "we deserve to lose".

By staying with a team / forming 3stack I meant via Discord / LFG not with in-game function.

As for cheaters - I am quite sure you are either not looking hard enough / don't know what to look for or just don't spectate people much.
You can look up my post about infection rate experiment from this season = in my case 50% of games (EMEA or NAE) had at least one 100% aimbotting / wallhacking player or multiple, 75% of the games had either previous or at least 50/50 case where I would bet on hacks knowing the situation with Apex aka "if it looks too good to be true, it probably is".

Typical tell tell signs of hackers:

• play mobile legend, lately Ash seems to be just top 3, Path and especially Rev is top 2 and 1 respectively
• pushes alone yet wins fights 1 vs multiple
• finishes games with like 10KP+
• in many cases have totally average / sub-par teammates (if you can see stats before game ends on k/a/p)
• if hackers teaming up they usually have one higher ranked player e.g. Diamond paired up with some Silver or Gold = to get even easier lobbies, potentially dodge lobbies with more hackers in them
• crazy accurate frag nades
• if teaming up one guy will play 90% support only = healing , carrying meds, picking up the main hacker guy if knocked
• exceptional in finding solo players around map
• have 0 comms or pings

Matchmaking back in the days was actually imo better, it just created a lot of tension in Masters+ / Pred level, I remember looking at first streams and really you had to watch it in recording not live otherwise you would spend 10+ min just looking at the lobby, waiting Master/Pred team to get into a game. Also it was clear that no many players were around, most common case was that at most 2 Master/Pred games per region were going on and ones that dropped early just had to wait in a lobby until either of the games end to get into the next one. => I assume bad for Respwn business plan + clearly based on the outcry of pro babies too hard for them to grind.
10+ KP, winning every other game, having no pushback from other players I guess sells better :)

Now when I get into Pred lobbies especially as Plat or D4 I just drop off the map not to give them easy KP and to f-up matchmaking and get myself into lobbies I actually belong. Yeah maybe not the best thing but knowing that 90%+ Preds hack I am just not interested to become one of the characters in their highlight videos. Also as Imperialhal said himself - even as pro player if soloq into Pred lobbies he has 0% chance of winning that game, skill gap is just too big => so me and my sub Master randoms vs Preds...even if we try we lose 100% of a time so I don't feel like wasting my 10-15 min every such game just to make sure.

But it has not been like that always, when I had 2-3stack and we were all Diamond+ level players for me it was actually a good challenge, I was looking forward to facing Masters, we lost most of the time (again probably part of the issue were hacks, part OP AA, part that we were just not good enough) but it was kinda fun, you had at least 1% feeling that you can win.
But those days are long gone. I feel like with soloq I can play ok pure Diamond lobbies only, be competitive there, win some of those games, but as soon as Masters/Preds come, they just run the lobby these days 99% of a time if not 100% = you can't outaim aimbot or outsmart radar/wallhack + add the fact that they do play together, communicate vs soloqers even at Diamond+ level not using mics (besides **bleep**talking after dying)...

Well one thing I know for sure, Eshshshss has a lot of free time xD

One of the teams in this lobby and the team that won this lobby with 18 kills:

p.s. yeah Preds were not playing with golds and diamond on the same team :D just in case someone is wondering.

Well I guess you have not too busy life either if at the middle of the night / late evening you come here to post slur.

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