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Re: Respawn Gives Up, Cheaters Rampant

@HappyHourSumwur Might as well delete your account with EA cause that's not ever going to happen. They'll play victim like they always do and give more lies and excuses when in fact they haven't a clue what to do and still believe manually banning is more effective than an actual system that works but God forbid you publicly name any cheaters cause they are very quick to protect the scum.

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  • 607-j's avatar
    607-j
    3 years ago

    @Angstmich  

    Even if they knew (which they don't) I doubt they would kill their own game by removing most of their base player, the game is running by cheaters and there is no cure right now... this reminds me of the old COD days where the option to report did laugh at the cheaters, at least respawn uses EAC.....well they keep laughing...

  • HappyHourSumwur's avatar
    HappyHourSumwur
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @AngstmichNaming and shaming should be OK if you have proof. I realize EA probably won't do a damn thing, but I'm definitely not rewarding them for doing nothing.

  • @Angstmich It's funny how this has been deemed solved clearly a publicity stunt cause at no point was this solve stop lying to the general public EA. There is no solution even remotely mentioned in this thread and yet still if you google apex cheating it comes up solved what a joke.
  • @Angstmich I'm truly curious as to who deemed this solved and how? See as respawn is now naming and shaming on PC for the lobbies to see how come its not happening on consoles .. oh right cause they're doing it in purpose unless you have some sort of following or backing they don't care can't wait to see the numbers drop off of console players. . But back to my original question Who and how did you deem this solved or is it a publication's thing so when people search cause they are sick of he nonsense and lies this company spews id love to know. Was is for publications or are you blind to real issues or was is a community puppet that did it.?
  • EAC does still get updated all the time, but little good it's doing.

    The anti cheat needs replacing...

  • Chill-Out-Zone's avatar
    Chill-Out-Zone
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago

    If EA gonna ban all the cheaters it wouldn't be enough players to play the game.

    GG 

  • Vdstrk's avatar
    Vdstrk
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @AnyBrains EAC is a free solution. No amount of pleading will ever entice them to give it up.

    That said, between smurfs and cheaters so far the game is the worse it has ever been.
    I do not play ranked. But pubs is a misery most of the times.
  • I did read somewhere they are working on a new solution, but not sure what that is.

    As to what EA will or won't do/giveup, only time will tell, but the clock is ticking, and they better jump fast.

  • A possible solution would be to remove recoil from all weapons and adjust DPS accordingly.

    They would then have removed 98% of the cheating problem in Apex.

    Furthermore, all the sellers of no recoil scripts / macros etc. would go out of business.

    And as a bonus cheating would be easier to detect since there would "only" be aimbot and wallhacks / radar left (and the occasional infinite health etc.)

  • AnyBrains's avatar
    AnyBrains
    3 years ago
    @Heisenbezerker

    Might be a good solution, afterall the game is suppose to be in the future, and rehtorically speaking, in the future they haven't learned how to remove recoil... LOL

    Or we can all just go out and buy Chronus and use it ourselves... LOL
  • ComicBookGuy2727's avatar
    ComicBookGuy2727
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    As much as it pains me to say this, but yes... either remove it and then we're all on the same playing field (other than the smurfs/ true aim/ aimbot etc) - go buy the cheat devices - or continue to be destroy by the ones that have them - or uninstall. 

  • Wargasmatron's avatar
    Wargasmatron
    New Vanguard
    3 years ago

    Develop a true anti cheat, not this junk that clearly allows circumvention beyond the capabilities of it developers to do anything about.

    Hire some real talent, and pay them well to keep them.

    Its very obvious that the hackers are always ahead of the game.

  • Auntyentity's avatar
    Auntyentity
    New Rookie
    3 years ago

    Why not accept that there will always be cheaters in any game that's popular.  I don't know how anti cheat works to catch cheaters using programs.  I assume if there's more going on on the user side then the game allows, this is how anti cheat might work.

    How about creating an additional bonus for the players to help catch them with Recon characters?  From posts I've read, many cheaters are either blatant or stealthy (toggling on/off).  Give Recon characters the ability to catch active cheats (not part of the game) when a Recon Beacon is used?  If a player is caught, they're reported, but they're permanently marked on the map and give the killing team bonus LP for taking them out, heck, 1+ to the Recon Character who caught them with a ping.

    It's probably asking for a lot but having Recon players actively use a Recon Beacon at unknown times would be one more layer of catching these players.  And EVERYONE would love to curb stomp a cheater.

  • Wargasmatron's avatar
    Wargasmatron
    New Vanguard
    3 years ago

    Most effective anticheat in my 25 + years of gaming has been Server admins in Spectator mode, with the ability to ban instantly.

    Back in the Medal Of Honor days, there was a fellow named BlackBart with the Invisible Warrior CLAN. He made his own anticheat software.

    There were 3 of them : Counter Intelligence, Missionary, Reverend

    In order to play on these servers, Each player had to download and run the client . The server side would always be changing at random intervals and the

    client side had checks and balances in place that had to match up with the server side. You could not circumvent the system. If you tampered with it, you were banned instantly.

    It was an excellent anticheat, and all the best of us in MOHAA and on the OGL ladder played on these servers, either that or we played on other clan servers we knew that always had server admins watching.

    BB was able to do it on his own and very little $$$$. He just asked for any donations that people could afford, nothing more.

    Electronic Arts net worth as of October 19, 2023 is $34.74B.

    Here we have a company worth Billions of dollars that cant come up with a solid anticheat for their games?? I call bull. You have to start asking why cant they ?

    Well, they can....they just don't.