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Vdstrk's avatar
Vdstrk
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago

Re: Why am I going against Apex Predators?

@DarthValtrex
I suppose. I have player anonymous mode enabled (or whatever it is called), I only see for ex. bangalore6513 killed wraith8791, so I would not be able to recognize any names.
The reason I mentioned the cheaters lobbies is due to an article released soon after apex launched 2 years ago.

Something like this article, but it wasn't this one...
https://www.eteknix.com/apex-legends-matchmaking-will-pit-cheaters-vs-cheaters/

As far as trying to stay anonymous, I kinda agree. I do not have as many kills as a pred would, I only have around 1300 this season so far, but when I display it, I get passed jump master, and or told something like "so, are you gonna carry us today?"

Eh :/ ..... I do not consider myself any good... so that places me in an odd spot. I generally leave the match when that happens... Sorry.

11 Replies

  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago
    @Vdstrk Lots of players don't think they are good but in reality they are in the top 10% or better. There is just a ton of death in this game.
  • Vdstrk's avatar
    Vdstrk
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago
    @DarthValtrex

    It is a hard game to master IMO. The gap between playstyles in soloq can be, and IMO is, the most impactful trait on a win or loss.
  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago
    @Vdstrk I think this is one of those games you don't "master" in the sense that you never die.
  • Vdstrk's avatar
    Vdstrk
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @DarthValtrex

    Sure. It is unavoidable to die on spawn. Everyone dies on spawn, and then compensate with a couple of decent matches when soloqing at least.
    Hard to master is more of a "speaking in jest" expression that anything.

    On spawn there are so many factors already. Where you drop, how many teams are dropping with you, or around you, loot, are your team mates sticking around? are they outlooting you"? are you outlooting them? does each team mate have at least a gun? a shield? a helmet? do they talk? do they hear you if you talk? Engage? disengage? who to shoot first? are your team mates separated and one dropped nearby because they saw a bad situation happening so you are down 1? or both left after outlooting you leaving you without a gun, and you just punched out 2 people and now have no heals so you need to run, while the other team mates are a mile away already and no coms? are there enemies separated that you can take on 1v1 or 2v one or 3v1?
    So many things just at spawn. Then there are passive players who cannot hold a fight. They enjoy looting, exclusively. They will never push, not even when there is one enemy left with no armor, no bullets and stationary healing, they will patiently wait for the enemy to heal up, get ammo and then attack them, and they will get killed, and if you ask why they did not push, they may say something like, "eh, it would have not been a fair fight, because he had no bullets and was healing". BRAIN BLAST!!!!!! I had actually someone telling me that.
    Or the opposite, the w+keyer who has no clue that his team is fighting a whole different battle a mile back, while they pester you on comms because you are not keeping up with their octane... and cursing because they cannot find a fight, while the team is already 5 kills in in a 2v the server.....
    So yeah death happens a lot in soloq... and death is unavoidable, a lot of it.
    Now my question to you is this, "How do I transcend myself, and become able to carry the UN-CARRY-ABLE"?

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    5 years ago
    @Vdstrk You have damage and kd like the OP and never see masters and preds in your lobbies? What is your win rate?
  • Vdstrk's avatar
    Vdstrk
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @hayhor

    5% approximately this season, I'm not sure what they are, there may be, but none that I know of.... that i can visibly tell they are pred. Never seen a dive pred tail EVER.

    Also, I do use the streaming anonymity modes... so no luck seeing the name....

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    5 years ago
    @Vdstrk Interesting. There is a short term aspect to the sbmm. After you win a couple matches I'd think youd see a harder lobby. I know I do and my kd is not what yours is tho my win rate is closer to 10%.

    Do you ever play with friends? Surely you see preds then?
  • Vdstrk's avatar
    Vdstrk
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @hayhor

    Not sure about it. Hard to tell because random matchmaking. But never seen anyone with more than 2k kills... if displayed.

    Hard to tell because the lack of team mates can actually make people appear stronger than what they are. Say you engage in a fight and both randoms just pull back, you may just feel as if the fight was extremely hard, when in fact the players you were fighting were all focusing you, because you had no more team all of a sudden... so it is very situational...

  • Vdstrk's avatar
    Vdstrk
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @hayhor

    "After you win a couple matches I'd think you'd see a harder lobby"

    https://www.eteknix.com/apex-legends-matchmaking-will-pit-cheaters-vs-cheaters/

    and

    https://www.essentiallysports.com/i-dont-really-identify-our-system-as-sbmm-apex-legends-developer-explains-how-sbmm-alogrithm-works-news-esports/

    I am not sure about it. I only see an increase in cheaters if I do well a couple matches.
    Suppose i get couple matches, like 3 or 4 matches with 8-10 kills, after a while I get into lobbies where you have wall hackers, aimbotters etc.
    There may be good players there? I do not know. All I know is that I can hide in the most remote places without moving, no hounds around, and a wraith comes by and shoots me. I could have been ANYWHERE, but they come straight where I am hiding.
    Or, I pick and I'm dead in less than a second, with like 6/7 head-shots.
    That goes on for a bit, like 10 or 15 matches at times even longer, until it goes back to normal up to when I do better again. These matches are usually with stats like 30 to 40 damage and 0 kills.
    I would believe it could be MM adjusting.But the jump is so extreme that it is not normal. Also, the players that kill me have 0 movement, at times they struggle picking up stuff from the boxes, they are under level 100 etc. In practice, I can tell they do not have much experience with the game, but have an abnormal control of the gun, and know exactly where players are. Eventually they get erased by a g7 shooting at 300mph from across the map.  Boring to watch.

    I do report them at times, and others I just let it go, because reports have 0 effects IMO.
    So why does that happen? Because when you kill a few people you get reported. Then you are placed in an observation tank until someone gets around to inspect you. They see you are getting erased, so they move you back with the general population.

  • Vdstrk's avatar
    Vdstrk
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago
    @hayhor

    Amazing to say the least.
    Today, for the very first time EVER. I had a pred in my team.

    I guess the above were my "last famous words"

    LOL

    I'm happy! 🙂