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Re: Why people are not buying enough - explanation

This is what I’m waiting for.

The Steam market place is a major catalyst for liquidity and driving sales. The gambling term people mention here is apt for CS - not so much Apex.

I think EA and others are afraid of going that route. It would be a lot of bad press for a company trying to be «family friendly» haha

A «legendary» item in CS is super rare and your chances of getting one is quite slim. The same would have to happen here. The probability for legendary loot would have to be divided by 100.

Keeping fingers crossed 🙂

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  • @-BiA-Pesqez i have to disagree, Ea LOVES bad press. They would do anything in a heartbeat for it hahaha

    But jokes aside there would have to be a lot of changes to Origin Platform. Id imagine heirlooms would act as the knifes/gloves for apex but i dont know much about EA's other titles and their Cosmetics and if theyre even desirable.

    What csgo did amazing was the trade up contract. Making crappy skins actually worth something in the long run. Games like Pubg failed to do this and so now you have a market crash. i swear like 85% of the Cosmetics in pubg are worth only 3 cents.
  • D3loFF's avatar
    D3loFF
    Rising Veteran
    7 years ago

    @PlugYourMuddFor the possible trading platform - it does not have to be Origin Based I think it can be developed purely in-game.

    As for PUBG - it is a military-based game with real working camouflage and in such game you don't need pink-white-unicorn-sniper or a red-pirate uniform visible from 2 miles away, but a "real" thing which would help you in game. This was their mistake and it cost them much.

  • @D3loFFwell if you remember correct, the skins worth the most werent military skins, they were skirts, leopard bandannas and other really fruity things. The military skins were always somewhere in the middle.Their mistake wasn't necassarily the quality of skins, it was the restrictions. PUBG implemented a no trade policy on skins. All skins HAVE to go thru the market. this happened when Valve was cracking down on the gambling sites and put a 2 week waiting period on trades. Those restrictions REALLY hurt their market big time

  • PlugYourMudd's avatar
    PlugYourMudd
    7 years ago

    i guess my point is, if they were to do in game trading/market, i don't really want to see restrictions that can kill their economy. The freedom to do whatever with your skins in csgo is what made it so amazing. The fact that i sold an AK skin to preorder CyberPunk 2077 is awesome. 

  • D3loFF's avatar
    D3loFF
    Rising Veteran
    7 years ago
    @PlugYourMudd Awesome, that's what I'm talking about - you had something with real-life value and traded it for something else. Nice move you pulled out there.
  • -BiA-Pesqez's avatar
    -BiA-Pesqez
    7 years ago

    I think the reason Apex isn’t selling succesfully is the skins aren’t worth anything. There is little actual rarity and supply is endless.

    Legendaries are so common that when people get an Epic they feel EA rips them off.

    And why pay for a so called legendary when anyone else can have it for a few bucks.

    Fortnite is the excpetion, they can sell $5-20 skins with no actual value but they succesfully target «kids». Although Fortnite have upped their skin game slightly.

    In the same category as Apex we have other skin floppers such as Battlefield, Black Ops and  Rainbow Six.

    Yes, market is needed but EA will never provide one. Too much red tape in the way. 

    But sure, if Respawn and others opens up for transferring skins to other account then markets will appear, EAs back would be free 🙂

  • Number one reason why I don't spend anything up til now, because of hackers. Don't tell me you guys forget how bad it was from release to June / early July, the hacking was hell, almost every single match headshot aimbot. The hacking got better (way less hacking after ranked was released so between early July til now, at least for normal queue). I think this is one of the reason why some people don't spend.

    Another reason for me, some of the skin on the normal store (not event) sucks not worth $20 (bald wraith ew, pathfinder ew, lifeline boring) also can't really enjoy the skin unless you win or you're in a finisher scene. And The store has long rotation and only few selection.

    I was going to buy Caustic skin, but don't feel like investing money on a game that's infested with hackers.

    But now that the hacking is bearable (almost 0 headshot aimbot, I wonder why it got better), and with the release of good event skins, now I can see my self spending some cash, especially when PvE / co-op is coming. But then one of you Respawn dev had to open your mouth and call us freeloaders lol. Just shut your mouth and take my money dude, stop ruining the mood, my god. 

  • XazoiR's avatar
    XazoiR
    7 years ago

    Quick question quick answer regarding, why i am not buying anything for Apex. Because game isn't fixed (code:leaf, Insane amount of cheaters). 

  • full951's avatar
    full951
    7 years ago

    They want the all ages market. They can't do the trading and give the skins monetary value because then it really will be gambling 

  • D3loFF's avatar
    D3loFF
    Rising Veteran
    7 years ago
    @full951 Without monetary value skins ain't worth sh!t. They become (as if it is now) artificially overpriced/priced. But you're right - it is company politics most likely.