I play on Xbox. I check my connection to see if anything is amiss. I am running at a clean 170 mbps and ZERO loss with only 28 ping. I kick on Apex and Worlds Edge is the map of the hour. I go in, get a dub and everything is running clean. Next map cycle brings on Olympus and straight after the drop everything turns into a sloppy mess. It becomes the Apex Legends slide show. Enemies are blinking and teleporting everywhere. This is not anything like the losers using servers a half hemisphere away with high ping to use the 'Neo in the Matrix' exploit 'Respawn refuses to acknowledge let alone do anything about. This has to do with Olympus specifically and the way the mechanics are strained immediately when engaging in battle. When I'm in an open field my ping is at a stable 50 ping, but immediately upon contact. ping shoots up to 75 and I've seen it go over 120. Packet loss is 20 to 40% I got a long list of grievances with EA and Respawn but I figure this would be a good place to start [Admin - removed profanity from thread title. Please please familiarize yourself with posting guidelines at https://answers.ea.com/t5/help/faqpage/faq-category-id/faq-user-guidelines#dos-donts to avoid potential future actions on your account.]

@CaptWrekAlyfe I never see this on my ps4. I also know xbox people that do not either. Seems really odd one map changes your connection. FPS I could understand

@hayhor I on pc have much better and smoother games on worlds edge. Olympis i dont know if its a gpu thing or what but it is far more unstable in areas for me then anything worlds edge has ever done to me. I made a post about this earlier in the season.

@E9ine_ACYeah but that isnt a net connection thing. That's something else. I mean on ps4 I see more frame drops on olympus too. It is huge and with all the open spaces you can see far. There is way more to render.

@hayhor This has nothing to do with frame rate, quality and clarity of graphics, or any other nonsense like that. I'm talking about the basic foundation cornerstone of GAMEPLAY.Now on Olympus many times when I encounter an enemy squad, my ping and packet loss shoots up and enemies are lag teleporting all over the place. They can shoot me up all to high hell but I can't even get a bead on them.This happens largely in Olympus. I normally blame the player, for the sake of argument, they may be in Cali but choose a far away server in NY or across seas with high ping so they can lag teleport on the enemies side of the connection for an advantage. But this is Olympus specific when I see my performance numbers in the upper right side of the screen increase in the wrong way anytime I get close to a battle.

Although smaller than WE, Olympus uses more & higher quality assets and effects (more textures, models, sounds, environments, etc.), it is more condensed, possibly having the largest playable surface of all maps so far(considering all the underground levels and tunnels). Therefore, it puts more strain on devices, often causing performance lag when the machines fail to process the frames in time. This can open the door to a lot of issues: late updates (which might be considered lost if the delay is big), prediction errors (resulting in hits not getting registered, stuttering, rubber banding, etc.), timeouts (disconnections, teleports). It's not hard to imagine that, if many clients experience issues at the same time, things can get south pretty quickly, rarely ending up crashing the server.It's normal evolution to have newer features pushing the boundaries a bit. The problem is that consoles can't keep up with how often things change currently. 6-7 years between generations is way too much, especially since they can't be upgraded, updated and tuned like PCs. Important mention here is that Apex released towards the end of consoles' generations, I'm pretty sure they will focus on the new generations more and more with the future updates, which means that things may get worse in terms of performance on older consoles.

Respawn, Olympus is [Admin - removed] unplayable

17 Replies

hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@CaptWrekAlyfe I never see this on my ps4. I also know xbox people that do not either. Seems really odd one map changes your connection. FPS I could understand
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@hayhor I on pc have much better and smoother games on worlds edge. Olympis i dont know if its a gpu thing or what but it is far more unstable in areas for me then anything worlds edge has ever done to me. I made a post about this earlier in the season.
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@E9ine_ACYeah but that isnt a net connection thing. That's something else. I mean on ps4 I see more frame drops on olympus too. It is huge and with all the open spaces you can see far. There is way more to render.
CaptWrekAlyfe
5 years ago
@hayhor This has nothing to do with frame rate, quality and clarity of graphics, or any other nonsense like that. I'm talking about the basic foundation cornerstone of GAMEPLAY.

Now on Olympus many times when I encounter an enemy squad, my ping and packet loss shoots up and enemies are lag teleporting all over the place. They can shoot me up all to high hell but I can't even get a bead on them.

This happens largely in Olympus. I normally blame the player, for the sake of argument, they may be in Cali but choose a far away server in NY or across seas with high ping so they can lag teleport on the enemies side of the connection for an advantage. But this is Olympus specific when I see my performance numbers in the upper right side of the screen increase in the wrong way anytime I get close to a battle.
DoYaSeeMe
5 years ago
Although smaller than WE, Olympus uses more & higher quality assets and effects (more textures, models, sounds, environments, etc.), it is more condensed, possibly having the largest playable surface of all maps so far(considering all the underground levels and tunnels). Therefore, it puts more strain on devices, often causing performance lag when the machines fail to process the frames in time. This can open the door to a lot of issues: late updates (which might be considered lost if the delay is big), prediction errors (resulting in hits not getting registered, stuttering, rubber banding, etc.), timeouts (disconnections, teleports). It's not hard to imagine that, if many clients experience issues at the same time, things can get south pretty quickly, rarely ending up crashing the server.
It's normal evolution to have newer features pushing the boundaries a bit. The problem is that consoles can't keep up with how often things change currently. 6-7 years between generations is way too much, especially since they can't be upgraded, updated and tuned like PCs. Important mention here is that Apex released towards the end of consoles' generations, I'm pretty sure they will focus on the new generations more and more with the future updates, which means that things may get worse in terms of performance on older consoles.
Lord_Scorpion34
Legend
5 years ago
@DoYaSeeMe I've been thinking the next gen should be upgradeable in some way. Or make them modular. But hopefully the new PS has been future proofed somewhat with the new SSD tech & a few other features they announced. I'm def curious to see how Apex runs on PS5.
DoYaSeeMe
5 years ago
@Lord_Scorpion34That's where the KF Console is aiming at, but I don't see how the price for what's basically a mini PC can drop from 2-3K down to 500$ or less, without some serious cuts.
bosourd
5 years ago
@E9ine_AC weird, it's the opposite for me, WE completely destroy my fps, especially in capitol, i lost around 20fps, while olympus is pretty much optimized on my end
DoYaSeeMe
5 years ago
@bosourd here's an idea to try: restart the game before each rotation, see if this still is the case.
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@CaptWrekAlyfe Yeah I dunno what to tell you. This is something new for the forum here.