3 years ago

"Smurf" redefined (Pros should be banned?)

Tyler Owens, a build engineer at Respawn, made a twitter thread about the report feature and a person asked if the rookie to masters/pred challenges these streamers/pros do count as a smurf. This is his reply.

If this is the case then a lot of people should be banned including those who do these challenges. Tyler's statement adds to the confusion of what Hideouts definition of a smurf saying that it's okay to make an alternative account to do these challenges but not to farm lower-skilled players. On the other hand, if we don't consider these alt accounts as smurfs, then just remove the smurf category when reporting a player. In my opinion, smurfing is not a problem in pubs since these accounts are quickly placed in high-tier lobbies after 3-4 games. However, smurfs are a problem in rank where it would take them a lot more before placing them in their suitable rank. This can be easily fixed by raising the level requirement before playing rank to level 50.

What do you guys think?

Tyler's thread on the report feature in the game. https://twitter.com/heytred/status/1563339578978623488?s=20&t=0eCChiNm0cHm3hXl6mvsdQ

"if you're playing Apex Legends & encounter a reportable offense, please... PLEASE use the in-game report tool every time even if you're convinced it doesn't do anything, I promise in most cases it's just as effective DM'ing a dev if not more. Plus it provides important info!

report them, have your duo report them, & if you see them again next game, report them again (especially if they are cheating, have an offensive name, etc.)

every time I watch a content creator accuse someone of cheating or smurfing without reporting them, I die a little inside"

Saw a cheater? Here's how you can report them.

1. Using the in-game report function. https://help.ea.com/en/help/faq/report-players-for-cheating-abuse-and-harassment/

2. Message a dev on twitter about it.

3. Through the EA website. https://help.ea.com/en/contact-us/?product=apex-legends

*A notorious hacker/cheater also said that reporting using the in-game report actually bans him quicker than messaging hideouts.*

discussion

29 Replies

DankToliet
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Cheese9Man There went 80% of pros on YouTube and Twitch. And Yes I do think they should be banned for doing it.
XHelperZ
Hero+
3 years ago
In my unfiltered opinion, there would be no need to play on an alternate account.
Playing below your skill harms the other skill tiers, which should be prevented.
If they are trying their best to get into their rank then I guess we can say it's allowed, though it's near impossible to see if someone is trying their best.
In general, there is no need to have an alt account, especially for influencers/pro's, they set an example of which other players might copy them.
These kinds of things harm the game, even if they're trying.
I'd say that it would be great to make it bannable, though it's pretty much impossible to detect a smurf.
SILVERisSORRY
3 years ago
@Cheese9Man FINALLY, I don't care who you are, EVERY player who smurfs SHOULD be BANNED.

It can only IMPROVE matchmaking.
kittysune
3 years ago
tbh every devs should learn from epic games like remember that time epic games banned a popular content creator that came from popular esport team because he is using cheats ?
i didn't said any name because everybody already figure it out who is that popular content creator that get permanently banned from fortnite not just his main account but himself like he is not allowed to play fortnite anymore that mean making another account is no use because he will get banned again
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Cheese9Man

Mr. Owen's tweet strikes me as completely disingenuous. "I don't know where the line is." "If you think...." "Feel free to report IMO." What a waffling answer. What he's trying to say, in MY opinion, is that Respawn dislikes the idea of smurfing, but has absolutely no way of dealing with the problem, nor probably much interest since, in the current reality, streamers call the shots. He's doing what corporations have done since the dawn of public relations: he's presenting the "caring face" of Respawn, while offering no substantive relief whatsoever. Wow, I know I feel better.
kittysune
3 years ago
@reconzero you're not wrong like every video game devs is now being controlled by people who they sponsored for marketing their game

if content creator or professional not happy then they conclused the 97% of the rest of the playerbase ( not just casual but also people who is competitive ) have same opinion as the content creator or professional players which is suck but it's the reality

and due to this the game will have a limited creative freedom because the fear of making your content creator hated and leaving your game like

we been like what 3 years ? and have less content than the game that just released a year ago ( apex legends mobile ) man all those year they could put a limited event where jack copper from titanfall 2 just raiding apex games and if we beat him we can take control of his titan for the rest of the game having fun and everything but nah that would make content creator mad
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@Cheese9Man Terrible response knowing what hideouts has said. We know for a fact they will never ban timmy or any of the others for smurfing.
Paneross
3 years ago
@hayhorHideouts is meh, he lives on Lulu's stream and bans anyone that kills her. Apex is easy when you have a Dev guardian watching over you.

To his "credit" he often goes back and unbans people that are just better than her....which is a LOT of players.
swift07
3 years ago
@kittysune that one kid that's name sounds like darvis? lol
swift07
3 years ago
They need to just set the rule across the board, that nobody can make new accounts because it affects matchmaking. Players see CC's making new accounts to do challenges like solos to masters/preds, and it tells them that they are also allowed to make new accounts. There can't be greylines or exceptions to rules, or nobody will take it seriously. Wish Respawn would enforce the rule on everybody but I guess they have to bend the rules for CC's. Smh...