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This has got to be the dumbest statement I've read for a while. Good job.
Just go look at my post Gun Recoil. I raised this topic on the forums many months ago with over 140 comments. Not a single staff has even commented on it. This is a page of a serious concern and not being addressed. I even explain what devices they are using. Anyone can do it.
You think the recoil dont exist im afraid it does. There are quite few ways of bypassing. I suggest looking up what Apex Xim can do. It also while removing recoil will grant your mouse and keyboard aim assist. These 2 combined are 100% pretty much cheating with soft cheats.
When they removed recoil with macros this is bypassing one the games biggest mechanics. Yet no one from EA will even comment on this. There are many videos that display how it works. This device costs around 120 and 100 used. This is not even the only device to grant this.
What it does it tricks the pc into thinking the controller is the main source of the pc which if you watch Hal when his match ends you will see a controller cursor. Then once he moves his mouse it goes back to his mouse icon. I watch a lot streamers who do this and i keep a list so maybe EA will want to see it. This built in with recoil macro which is also programmed from Xim = near god mode.
- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+
@hayhorI most certainly am. Quite a bit do use Xim and it is clearly being seen with 100 meter shots of no recoil patterns Also the controller icon at end of the match is 100% using it when you see them using a mouse and keyboard. One thing ill point out. A lot the streamers use very low sensitivity. They move the mouse a good 6 inches just to make a simple bunny hop. Then watch their hand while shooting unless the person is moving left to right is only time you see that hand move. While they shoot complete straight lines their hand will not move. It will stay dead where they put it on the mouse pad.
Clear indication.I also fully understand that my post will most likely be altered. But I would challenge anyone to watch Shiv with same dpi as some these pros. His hand while shooting will move quite a drag while firing his weapon. We do not see this with some top players. Which Shiv is. He is 100% legit. Compare those recoil patterns on their hand movement can see it yourself.
- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+
Feel free to read over my Gun Recoil post. With 16 pages of complaints of this very thing.
When i give names of comparison this is not me wanting this person banned or that person this is me trying raise awareness to a serious problem. That the client should be able to detect. As it is a USB device and can be seen via scans.
Some streamers wont even hide it. In their title it says Mouse/Keyboard + Controller.
https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Feedback/Gun-Recoil/m-p/9503226#M60251
- 5 years ago
@E9ine_AC no no, I know there's recoil macros and the like out there, and I've even already posted on your linked thread (you've kept it up for quite a while I'm impressed). My point was to not immediately assume everyone is cheating and at the very least give benefit of doubt. Like I said, sometimes it is recoil control, and other times the person in question really is cheating.
- 5 years ago
@E9ine_ACI never said pro/streaming cheaters don't exist. I even said that some pros and streamers were exposed for cheating. But as long as you don't have DEFINITIVE PROOF that they are cheating nothing will happen. And no "their gun recoil is weird" is not DEFINITIVE PROOF this is why some cheaters go on cheating for a long time as they need to make sure who they're banning are really cheating.
Just to make things clear:
"Some streamers and pros did cheat and was exposed so the possibility of pro cheaters is there"
All I'm asking is if you have proof show them or send them to the proper authority.- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+@Daze623 I have tried none are interested. Then again would you be as a company to someone who brings players to apex with a constant viewing of around 8k? I doubt they would remotely touch streamers of this level.
- 5 years ago@E9ine_AC if you think you have solid proof of streamers/pros cheating and the company won't do anything about it. It's time to post it online for everyone to see. You probably can't post it here as naming and shaming isn't allowed but you can probably call them out in your own social media accounts. If it is solid proof that a streamer/pro is cheating it usually gains traction and might even force EA to do something about it.
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