@Daze623Watch live streams. Watch hand movement for basic moves then watch hand movements on firing a gun at 100 meters or more with straight shots.
These things are not new they are well known. As I have stated above some streamers even will have their titles Controller+Mouse-Keyboard. They know exactly what this is doing. They dont try to hide it.
As I mention above also when they die and on the page that shows stats with single banner you will see a controller icon. When you just watched them demolish a map with mouse and keyboard.
Where in the world would that controller icon come from? Programs allowing the pc to be tricked into thinking its main source. Apex follows this rule. When apex is tricked into thinking controller is main source it grants aim assist for mouse and keyboard as the icon that first shows when leaving is a controller icon. It is not the mouse icon. This is pure proof it self. I have done my home work and comparing. I just hope others can.
Due to how they have these forums set up ill be unable to share videos on the forums without me being in trouble for name and shame. When I used the 2 names I did name above it was pure compare this to that. This was not be talking about any of them in bad way but more hey just watch big streamers hand movements compared to others with same dpi settings.
No matter how many people say this isnt so or these things dont exist I tell them you truly dont care about the game or fair game play for all if not done homework on what these programs and devices can actually do.
@E9ine_ACOnce again I know cheating streamers/pros exist.
But like I said if you want something to happen you have to put effort and show people said moments where the guy is said cheating. Telling me to go watch people live stream will not do anything as one I have no power on banning people and two people who do have power on banning people are too busy to watch people live stream just to judge if they are cheating or not.
Basically you have to hold the hand of the viewer show casing the suspicious moments and explaining why it's suspicious. That is how you make a solid proof. You collect evidence and you explain why that is evidence of him/her cheating. You probably can't post it here as naming and shaming of any form is not allowed but there are other sites you can do that and if you make enough of a noise the company will be forced to address it. And ofcourse you will get hate from their followers as that is to be expected but if you present a good enough evidence there will also be people who will back you up. If you can't risk anything then nothing will change.
@Daze623I honestly should have put zero efforts into this. I am on this pc for 15 hours a day. (I am a programmer/coder for games). So I literally live on this thing watching streamers when not playing or fixing errors on my server.
Over all what this means is I should not be investing up to 5 hours a day of stream viewing. I should not have to do anything of the sort as im just a player. I do not get paid to find these things for them. It is not my duty to even do so.
With simple detections put in play reading USB injections to the pc easily can detects such devices. Then you have the worry of in game recoil macros. Most who use these do it in very certain way at times.
So for basic user they assign F1 keys to what gun they use. The game can detect a gun being picked up and can keylog in game keypresses all games can. Then you compare that for months play time. Are these F1 keys always hit when picking up this gun? Well everytime they pick up devo they are pressing F1 keys to activate which macro to follow as recoil patterns for each gun is different so the macro it must follow also follows this.
This is also why you see a lot use a shotgun as secondary or wingman because recoil is not as worried with these they dont need activated via F1 keys.
What it boils down to I dont get paid to do it. Streams are free to watch. While checking exploits and being paid to do so they easily can monitor big streamers with out us players having to do anything at all.
@Daze623Again in the eyes of EA this is obviously not a cheat and being allowed. My stance it to make it not be allowed. It is quite simple to see a controller cursor when they leave a match you either are looking for straight aim bot or what ever. Aim assist only helps soo much you will have moments of missing.. It will not give them full on aim bot which is what you seem to be looking for.
This is to stop 3rd party applications and devices to assist with game play with a advantage over other players. Which by the TOS is considered cheating. I am not saying they cheat. The TOS is.
@Daze623They sure have not said it is not allowed and my post is over 4 months old of many players complaining and comparing. Not a single staff member has spoken on it with 16 pages. One the highest talked about things in numbers of pages nearly. So with that being said with no staff commenting on it then it is not being enforced.
Just like they will not comment on this page either about it cause its nearly same topic i brought up months ago with no answers or clairity.
I watched a few matches.
First, esports mostly bore me. I mean, as a thing to check out, sure. But I play games more than watch them. The common come back to this is 'But you watch pro football, even if you play regular football right?" No. No I don't. Pro-football and any pro-sports is boring: it's a bunch of mercenaries and people somehow pretend that the colors and the city mean something. They don't. And that's why fans get all busted up when their team leaves their city for more money...not really because they left but the reality finally hits them that no...the sports team doesn't care about the fans other than to make money off them (even if the players themselves do).
So, back to this game. If watching a league game, the absolutely least interesting thing to watch is the gun play. Who cares if they use macros or are super accurate? Pros are pros, they wouldn't be if they couldn't hit people with their shots.
It's more interesting to see the strategy and the choice of weapons, the positioning, and how it all comes down in the end. And it has proven some things about the core of the Apex game that, to me, people should realize. Like stop crying about camping, camping is not a problem unless you don't know how to crack a camp, which is on the player, not the campers. And 'third partying' is not a thing, it's a Battle Royal with lots of teams for a reason...people like it.
Other than that, I watched a few league matches and then I was done. I wanted to spend my time playing the game exclusively, if I was involved.
