From ranked when they do stupid stuff… can’t be that people are allowed to throw the game unpunished…

@BallisticMVPNo game really tries to balance weapons. Weapon "balancing" is more to keep the game fresh by giving people a change in what they use. And it helps sell skins. We had smg meta for long enough. Shotgun meta fixes the AA whining too. I've said for a long time the biggest reason AA is so strong is due to shotguns being unusable. Now that shotguns are meta no one is complaining about AA.

@BallisticMVP You FOUND it !!!! Oh my Goodness you figured it out . Let’s Ban the last 70 k players left in this game that’s used to have sooooooo many people playing let’s ban them for not cheating and playing there free too play game how they want . What a solution I didn’t think anyone would crack the code but you did 😳😳😳

Another thing if you are not capable of balancing shotguns, just remove them…

@hayhor even if that was the case it does not excuse that shotguns are by far the best weapons on drop.Secondly I don’t know where people get that from that shotguns are so much worse on controller I play with controller from time to time and I have no problem at all. I would even argue that with mosam and Eva aa helps significantly

@BallisticMVP"From ranked when they do stupid stuff… can’t be that people are allowed to throw the game unpunished…"You can't ban people for doing things you disagree with. I know. If I had the power of the ban there wouldn't be anyone else left in the game apart from me. So I feel your pain. Cheaters, yes. By all means. Idiots... much as it pains me to say it, no."Another thing if you are not capable of balancing shotguns, just remove them…"Weapon balance is an oxymoron. Name any gun you like. It's been at the top and it's been at the bottom. And will be again. It's a shell game.

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BallisticMVP
9 months ago
Another thing if you are not capable of balancing shotguns, just remove them…
hayhor
Hero
9 months ago
@BallisticMVPNo game really tries to balance weapons. Weapon "balancing" is more to keep the game fresh by giving people a change in what they use. And it helps sell skins. We had smg meta for long enough. Shotgun meta fixes the AA whining too. I've said for a long time the biggest reason AA is so strong is due to shotguns being unusable. Now that shotguns are meta no one is complaining about AA.
BallisticMVP
9 months ago
@hayhor even if that was the case it does not excuse that shotguns are by far the best weapons on drop.
Secondly I don’t know where people get that from that shotguns are so much worse on controller I play with controller from time to time and I have no problem at all. I would even argue that with mosam and Eva aa helps significantly
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
9 months ago
@BallisticMVP

"From ranked when they do stupid stuff… can’t be that people are allowed to throw the game unpunished…"

You can't ban people for doing things you disagree with. I know. If I had the power of the ban there wouldn't be anyone else left in the game apart from me. So I feel your pain. Cheaters, yes. By all means. Idiots... much as it pains me to say it, no.

"Another thing if you are not capable of balancing shotguns, just remove them…"

Weapon balance is an oxymoron. Name any gun you like. It's been at the top and it's been at the bottom. And will be again. It's a shell game.
BallisticMVP
9 months ago
@reconzero Well you can and many games do that… if you wanna run arround like a headless chicken you can do that in trios.

Please go a couple of games in lol 0:15 and let me know how long it took you to get banned for feeding… it’s quite simple
hayhor
Hero
9 months ago
@BallisticMVP I never said shotguns are bad on controller. But they are better on mnk due to flicking. Mozams did as you say give rollers a little help but they aren't above and beyond other shotguns now, other than a pk. Most pros are using mastiff now. And some are using eva because in your face no gun kills faster.

When smgs were meta the tracking part of AA made controller players better with them. It's why the rise or controller players in the pro ranks happened most.
BallisticMVP
9 months ago
@hayhorBut you do track with Eva and mosam, and especially Eva is mental don’t know how much stronger it needs to get just had a match were I mowed down a whole team on drop with Eva felt legit like cheating.
my argument is not that they are overall op but they are ridiculously op on drop
WhoopFighter
9 months ago
@hayhorI'd argue shotguns are just as easy, if not easier then smgs with AA. I used to duel my buddy with shotguns, and he would not miss when using a controller, like never. He said it was really easy.

While we're on the topic, AA has been turned down slightly, it still needs further balancing however. It will be interesting to see some new stats after the change, but I suspect it wasn't that impactful. It feels a little better in game, but by no means a night and day difference. I still see roller players perfectly rotating with their target, which is not how it works on MnK for most normal humans.
hayhor
Hero
9 months ago
@BallisticMVP I don't put any stock in on the drop stats. Half the time you kill people who don't even get a gun. I'm talking people that have time to kit up. And yes I agree tracking helps with the automatic shotguns but that's why it's important that the mastiff is so good right now.
hayhor
Hero
9 months ago
@WhoopFighter When smgs were meta this forum had daily AA hate threads. Many times multiple. When mnk pros died in pred ranked or tournaments the first thing they'd yell was CONTROLLER! I haven't seen a nerf AA thread or heard a pro complain about a roller since smgs were hard nerfed. And we can't say it's the AA nerf that did it because the first triple roller team won the first lan after that.....while using smgs. What changed since? Buffs to shotguns and nerfs to smgs.