Stop complaining about cheaters on PC

Thank you for this. I made a post exactly like this when I first came to the forums. You're as right now as I was then. 

Are you trolling?  Because you are clearly not as skilled as you claim if you have not seen the cheaters in this game.  Especially with the hours you claim to have played.  I have seen many speed hackers, esp hackers and aim bots used.  MANY TIMES!  Some days I may go hours without suspicion and other days it’s every other game for a few hours.  When top players did a twitch competition they had to work in a redo system for games where cheaters ruined games, and yes they had cheaters!  It’s not just people on this forum, check out reddit or watch some YouTube...it’s a known infestation.  Yet you make it seem as if everyone, all the evidence, even the developers themselves stating its a issue are all wrong?  Over half a million hardware bans in two months, yet there are no cheaters because you, the most experienced person on these forums, doesn’t see them?  What a joke of a post. 

The point of this thread was to encourage people to pay more attention. As it sits, there's not an effective enough way to catch hackers, so you can't 100% say someone is cheating if you haven't seen it fully. There's a difference between really good and hacker. 

That's all! He didn't deny hackers! He just doesn't want APEX's name to be ruined because of all the negative comments from people who had an off game!

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@VPPTrue wrote:

Thank you for this. I made a post exactly like this when I first came to the forums. You're as right now as I was then. 

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355 000 players were banned in march at the time there was 50 million players, that means on february 29th at the very least there was 0,71% cheaters in game. That is one cheater for every 2-3 games. 

Basically the facts does not align with your opinion, so maybe you should stop presenting your opinion as a fact. 😉

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@DavidW74 wrote:

Are you trolling?  Because you are clearly not as skilled as you claim if you have not seen the cheaters in this game.  Especially with the hours you claim to have played.  I have seen many speed hackers, esp hackers and aim bots used.  MANY TIMES!  Some days I may go hours without suspicion and other days it’s every other game for a few hours.  When top players did a twitch competition they had to work in a redo system for games where cheaters ruined games, and yes they had cheaters!  It’s not just people on this forum, check out reddit or watch some YouTube...it’s a known infestation.  Yet you make it seem as if everyone, all the evidence, even the developers themselves stating its a issue are all wrong?  Over half a million hardware bans in two months, yet there are no cheaters because you, the most experienced person on these forums, doesn’t see them?  What a joke of a post. 

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Thank you for bringing your perspective to the discussion. I believe some parts of your post aren't bringing any value to the discussion so I'll just omit to consider these parts. Here I Removed them for you. Now let's discuss :D

From your perspective, it seems like it's not as bad as many players make it look like. You mentionned you can play hours without seeing a single cheat which is great! As stated earlier, speedhacks are pretty obvious therefore I can't counter argue with you and I believe you 100% when you say you saw these kinds of cheats.

I love the part where you say a twitch competition had to work in a redo system. That is a valuable argument which demonstrates that there sure are hackers in the game and in a ratio high enough for that competition to be impacted by such cheaters.

I did see obvious hacks in youtube videos and instagram posts. That unfortunately doesn't demonstrate how bad of a problem the issue is since communities are most likely to post about hacks instead of the lack of it. 

"Over half a million hardware bans in two months"
I did see numbers like 300k popup in my google news feed. I can't deny that. I wish I had access to stats like daily bans amount, and on which servers. An earlier replier stated that some servers seemed a lot more infested by hacks than others.

What server do you play on? That feedback could help others figure out if the issue is worse in some servers.

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@VPPTrue wrote:

Thank you for this. I made a post exactly like this when I first came to the forums. You're as right now as I was then. 

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355 000 players were banned in march at the time there was 50 million players, that means on february 29th at the very least there was 0,71% cheaters in game. That is one cheater for every 2-3 games. 

Basically the facts does not align with your opinion, so maybe you should stop presenting your opinion as a fact. 😉

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The ban hammer is an undeniable fact that happened. Nobody made their opinion feel like they were facts though. As described in the many posts of this discussion, some players experience a lot more cheats ingame than others. It's all a matter of perspective.

I wonder what will be the numbers at the end of april!

How often do you personaly feel like you play with or against cheaters and what are the obvious signs that confirms your point of view?
Also, could you please provide us with the server you play on?

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@jonesy0218 wrote:

The point of this thread was to encourage people to pay more attention. As it sits, there's not an effective enough way to catch hackers, so you can't 100% say someone is cheating if you haven't seen it fully. There's a difference between really good and hacker. 

That's all! He didn't deny hackers! He just doesn't want APEX's name to be ruined because of all the negative comments from people who had an off game!

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You got it just right! The main reason why this thread was created is because I can't relate to all the threads saying the game is infested with hackers. Hackers have been around for a while and that is espacially true when it comes to free MMO games like Apex. That is undeniable!

What is deniable are statements like "There are hackers in every single match". ifferent players encountered different amounts / ratios of cheaters. 

Thanks man!
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