@ShidWidley69420 It's a PVP game every PVP is toxic, Destiny, Fortnite, Cod, I've played all. I am the teammate that always carry a team & lately people just are toxic morons anymore & you can't carry if one is across the map at Fragment & your other teammate is a staging when y'all landed at Lava Siphon 2 minutes ago, this game like all the rest are unplayable unless you have a squad to play with but even then the bugs, the hackers, the hit boxes, the wandering around to find fights, the lobby dying out constantly very quickly in the first ring, trying to find loot, find your loadout, which yea is better then having toxic teammates who don't wanna fight at ALL or just wanna solo everything & quit the second they get knocked, but still those other things all ruin the game regardless so I feel Apex time is over & not just Apex but all BR, Arena shooters are where it's at, no wandering around looking for fights, no worrying about teammates, no looting, no having to know where to find good loot, upgrading your shields, getting in the ring, 3rd partied, living in the lobby constantly because of your teammates/RNG giving you crap weapons like Mozams when you looted 3 bins to some random enemies 1 but he gets a 301 & a nemesis lol, also I don't get why you say Apex like it's only Apex, I'm 29 & I gotta say last season & the one before that, I've encountered way more adults 20+ 30+ year olds who are just toxic, like I say "hey (insert legend their playing) don't go too far, cause we won't be able to help you man, stay close" in a calm rational manner & get told to shut the f up, which at that point, they regret because I'm not the one for all that, I'm just tryna play a game. I've encountered people who probly have kids my age, acting like moronic teens, it's crazy, I play with kids, it's basically coo, I play wit teens 16+ or adults & they act like they know it all even when they are new to the game lol