Train mode shows very quickly how many low skilled players there truly are. It's nice compared to looting with them only to find it out in our first fight. Needs a leaving penalty. For some reason, people just can't finish the game...probably back to the low skilled payer issue again.

@DavidW74 What is this "low skilled player issue" you speak of?I may be waaay off the mark here (I doubt it) but this sounds like a carry over from the sbmm debacle. What is it with the high tier (i assume thats you, idk) players in this game being so absolutely toxic to those who dont live up to their expectations?For what it's worth, event or regular, I find myself abandoned by high ranking players SIGNIFICANTLY more than the lower ones. As someone who falls in what I would call the "decidedly average" category (lvl124, 35 s3 wins, 3-4 kill 1k damage per game average) I would much rather be placed in a squad with 2 other players at lvl 50 than in a squad with 20 kill badges and a TTV wraith, for the very simple matter that I'm statistically far less likely to be advised to suffocate on my own genitals when I miss a shot.If we are going to attribute "skill level" as a persistent issue in Apex, then it's not the low skilled players who are the problem here.

@blkarmphoenix agreed,It boils down to two things really, ego and the ability to work with others. Some people just ain't cut out to be team players,some people think they're too good to need teammates. Both think their teams are the problem. :,)

@MandatoryIDtag And their motto is #Solomode.

@Koochi-QSure. I understand. I made my first post on these forums a few weeks ago and I'm pretty sure you chimed in there as well. My post was regarding the requests for solos mode, and a bit of a rant regarding toxic solo squadders. One of you (you beautiful high forum xp people you) told me to give it time, if I was any sort of decent I'd be there eventually.As the prophecy fortold, shortly after creating that post I hit something of a stride where my game sense started clicking, I got my control sensitivities dialed in, and I just started playing better. At this point I did in fact find myself getting frustrated when paired with less proficient players.BUTI had to attitude adjust myself reeeal quick, because I refuse to be a toxic player. What I feel like is majorly lacking here, is the ability for those who've played longer to give new players time to adjust and gather their bearings.Poor PC performancePoor network connectivityLow quality displayLow quality peripheralsLack of headphonesExcess ambient noiseGaming in a high distraction area (living room with siblings/housemates)Recent platform or control scheme switchesBeing unfamiliar with BR or shooters in generalCasual gaming in lieu of regular gamingDrugsAlcoholAttention demanding petsAttention demanding kidsCompromised eyesightCompromised hearingToo much caffeineToo little caffeineAmbient room temperatureAll of the things I listed above could be a reason why that one (or both) player(s) only got 150 dmg over 3 rounds. However the one thing that won't fix ANY of those things, is getting upset with the person, and obscenely telling them they're garbage and should throw their system away.Don't get me wrong. I'm not naive. This is am issue present in online interaction in general. For some reason though, Apex does seem to have a higher concentration of this de-humanizing attitude than other games I've played.I'll close with a story. I quit a game shortly after drop several weeks ago. Don't know who my teammates were, but we dropped in, got a kill or two, and I straight up bailed. Now I'm sure, that behind their screens, the other two players probably called me trash. They probably seethed, blamed respawn for a broken game, drooled over the idea of solos, and probably assumed instantly that I was a garbage butthole who doesn't deserve to breathe, let alone play Apex. Who knows, maybe they came here to complain about low level players bailing on their squads.So here's what happened...My 7 year old daughter had come down the hall to tell me that one of our family housecats was nowhere to be found. After she insisted that the cat was not in the house, I left the game. Turns out the cat had escaped earlier that day, and a cold front was coming in that night. After looking outside for an hour I called it a night. I then listened to my wife bawl with guilt about letting the cat out.For the next 3 days, that cat stayed missing. Despite looking during the day, I played Apex at night to take my mind off the situation, and I played terribly as would be expected. At the end of the 3rd day we found our kitty, all was once again right with the world, and I was able to turn my full mental energy toward my gameplay again.All I'm saying, is that the tendency to instantly assume to worst about a stranger, and the constant refusal to give another human the benefit of the doubt breeds toxicity.Sure. Maybe that person got 150 damage because they're literal garbage. But I choose to believe that maybe, just maybe there may be more factors at play than whatever we pull off the top of our head to write someone off with.

@blkarmphoenix "I'm statistically far less likely to be advised to suffocate on my own genitals when I miss a shot."Thanks for the morning laugh ☕❤️

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blkarmphoenix
6 years ago
@Koochi-Q

Yes all kitties are home and accounted for 🙂

Not all are toxic. But by nature, the toxic ones are the loudest. Sure, there are people who just really need to think through their actions, but game sense comes with time.

I'll die on this hill defending the mediocre gamer lol.

That being said, I shant hijack this poor OP's post with my tirades of humanity in gaming any longer lol. To steer back to topic...

I don't think there should be a leaving penalty in LTM modes. Its Christmas for petes sake.
jumanjaydazed
6 years ago
@blkarmphoenix
"I'm statistically far less likely to be advised to suffocate on my own genitals when I miss a shot."
Thanks for the morning laugh ☕
❤️
Koochi-Q
6 years ago
@blkarmphoenix Lolz unfortunately I’m the thread hijacker and derailer so before I Harry Potter it back I’m glad all the kitties are safe and sound! (I’m an animal lover, I would care more for a cat than a person in danger XD).

Okay to that point. I AM definitely toxic XD. Everyone here can attest to that, BUT I don’t always do it in game. This LTM gives several chances and luckily the other teammate had gamesense and didn’t run into battles like a headless chicken. BUT if this were normal apex and after several pings to stay put or something and the guy made us lose or got me killed, that mic would’ve automatically unmuted and so would the questioning regarding that person’s state of mind or IQ :P

I got no problem with mediocre gamers. As long as they listen. It’s like the army. It’s life or dead. If you don’t know what you’re doing, it’s all good if you listen. If you don’t, ppl die and if you survive, you’re gonna get an earfull.
I’ve played with absolute newbs who were lower than lvl 10. Some with mics, some didn’t who listened to what I or the other person said or when we pinged something, they’d follow. I got no issue dying as a teacher. But if I get ignored as a teacher when you clearly don’t know what you’re doing, you’re gonna get that catholic punishment, ruler style XD.

Now sim sala abalony kablam: wait... was this thread about penalty’s in LTM? XD. I thought it was about seeing low skilled ppl... ohhh yup yup I remember.

Was the same case with shadowfall. People wanted a penalty. I’m kinda neutral. It would make the games much more enjoyable, but I wouldn’t want to get stuck with a team that doesn’t play the objective. Maybe a set penalty of 5 minutes no play instead of increasing in duration?
DavidW74
6 years ago
@Flashshark1980 I’m probably the counter balance. Meaning I get low skill teammates because I’m doing awesome.
DavidW74
6 years ago
@blkarmphoenixas reference. Im doing about 2k+ damage and 5-10 kills a game. Winning about a third of them. I regress. I suppose my post was “bashing” lower skilled players, especially because I had a handful of games in a row with only one teammate (won several times with just two). Each time it was a low skilled player who left us. But I do agree that traditionally higher skilled players have ditched the team just as often. As far as skill goes. I’m not worried about playing with less skilled teammates, especially in this mode! It’s better then regular match’s with them was my point! Way better! I don’t have to wast time looting and we all get more opportunity to fight! That being said, it’s also easier to identify lower skill players with so much combat time.

Didn’t mean it as a “bash” on skill. Only an observation.
DavidW74
6 years ago
@hhnbbfggty66 Agree. I’m having a blast as well. This mode allows a lot of combat time and that’s very enjoyable.
DavidW74
6 years ago
Maybe a set penalty of 5 minutes no play instead of increasing in duration?

Not a bad idea. A limited penalty for this mode.
DavidW74
6 years ago
@blkarmphoenix “Christmas for petes sake.“. LOL honestly the music cheers me up! I was thinking, I wonder if it will make people less toxic?
blkarmphoenix
6 years ago
@DavidW74

I love the music! The shadowfall music I didn't care for as much, but I love Christmas themed Apex lol.
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Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
@DavidW74 when the lag is as bad as it is how can you blame someone for leaving? Any game mode I play if I can feel it being laggy as all hell I don't care what game mode it is I will leave even when I don't get downed or killed.

They need to fix their game.

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