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DrWizardo
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago

Vantage thoughts.

So, I've been trying to play Vantage and I'm struggeling to express my feelings when playing her.

TL:DR I don't really like her.

On paper she is a scan legend with movement and an extra gun. That should be good. And occationally it can be. Getting some snipes in, or telling your team there is a solo or squad running around can be useful. Moving to height or jumping over a gap is also good... but.

The legend just feels extremely clunky to use.
Her tactical bat is more of a mechanic you fight vs. use. It needs to deploy, it needs LoS, it shows your position and it has a slow flight + mediocre functionality.
The whole bat mechanic also makes 0 sense, she uses her jetpacks to get somewhere, not the bat, so why is it there?

Moving on to her Ultimate.
The sniper rifle can be pretty good, but it caters hugely to quick scoping rather than hunting / sniping. I'm not saying it is all out bad, just counter productive.
The laser that telegraphs you're about to fire can possibly work as a deterrent and somewhat supress an enemy team, but mostly it just gives away your position, working against you landing a shot at all.

Lastly her passive.
The passive on its own isn't bad. Zooming unarmed or with a scope to see the make up of an enemy team can be useful. And as it is something else than flat out scanning, it should be applauded a little. However... Compared to the other scan legends, her skill is clearly at the bottom of the list. You're rather likely to see and shortly after know about an enemy team that you see anyway.


So what we get is one of the most clueless snipers ever. She has a huge hitbox, she has a mobility skill that puts her in danger, and her sniper is a glorified flashlight.


I will try to play more with this legend to see if I can find ways to make her useful, but imo she needs a lot of work.

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  • Asmodeus566's avatar
    Asmodeus566
    Hero+
    3 years ago

    @DrWizardo 

    So Vantage:

    She is actually pretty good, although clunky as you say.

    @LaughingSharko is correct with the use of Echo.

    I tend to use Echo to push fights, especially after my teammates have already pushed and I have hit one or two of the opposing players with Snipers mark.

    With that in mind I also tend to play Vantage quite aggressive, using CQC weapons, like having an R-99 or Alternator paired with another SMG or AR weapon. for me this is great because I can use Snipers mark to get in some initial damage as my teammates get closer and then use Echo to get up close and personal with the CQC weapons. 

    Also Echo can be used to bait other teams and that is a great use. Plus as @LaughingSharko said she is already out for your reposition and or a possible exit Strat if needed. The one thing that is great about Echo is that the double jump can be used to change direction or even to perform a 180, something Loba cannot do.

    The main thing as with all other Legends is that your teammates have to work with you. I play a bit with two friends so we have our strats pretty well set, I also play a lot solo and while that can be more difficult, with using her sniper abilities and when to push/not push it tends to work out.

    Snipers mark is also pretty good at keeping other teams at bay with some pretty decent poke dmg especially if you can land that second shot or if one of your other teammates has a sniper weapon as well and can provide the time needed to rotate or reset. It is also great for picking off straggling and or struggling enemies that have been 3rd or 4th partied. 

    I am also just another casual player as well, even though I have basically mained Vantage for the last season and a half, and have found that with the CQC set up paired with Snipers Mark works well with my play style.

    GG's all.

  • DrWizardo's avatar
    DrWizardo
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @reconzero As @Asmodeus566 mentions, playing her with an SMG and an AR makes sence to me. 2 automatics paired with the sniper. But as she doesn't have that much going for her in close combat (being large and having only a slim chance of getting away with the tactical) it feel like a legend that you kind of need to attack with when you're already on a roll.
    A "superiority fighter" if that is a thing? Like if you're 2v1 she does the trick, but 1v2 she just morphs into 0.5 v 2 xD

    Anyway, I'm giving it a new try in a few hours. I want to believe (or something).
  • DrWizardo's avatar
    DrWizardo
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Asmodeus566 I'll get on the mic more and see if that helps.
    I am currently in the deep end of low low lobbies tho. And while that might seem good as the opposition isn't great. The team isn't all that strong either haha (me being part of that of course).

    I have been running a fair bit of R9 or Prowler this season on Mirage and I will admit that it helps a huge bit with close fights. Snipers/DMRs on Vantage may just be redundant.

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