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HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

When does the Season 20 hype start?

We are 2 weeks out and there is literally nothing out there other than speculation about the new legend (Cave), the new map (codenamed 'District'), and some snippets about the Battlepass.

Not that I expect Respawn to say much because their community relations is basically non existent, but usually they start dropping trailers and hints in game by now don't they?  Just curious . . .

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  • HappyHourSumwur's avatar
    HappyHourSumwur
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @reconzero I am not investing any money in Apex until they start addressing the fundamental issues with the game and start pricing some of the content reasonably. Hundreds of dollars for an heirloom deathbox when your matchmaking, servers, audio, and anti cheat have been left broken for years? No thanks!
  • Airish85's avatar
    Airish85
    2 years ago

    @HappyHourSumwur I agree with you but we need to also see it from company perspective. Apex was not made by some garage community funded company. Whole idea of Apex is to generate money for EA. Only income they get from the game is the cosmetics sales. How would you feel if EA would be selling audio & matchmaking patches for 50 dollars? Competitive integrity and so on...

    But dont get me wrong. I too feel that more money should be invested in the things you list below. But the issue is that EA is just too big stock company to do such things. Big execs & shareholders only see it as numbers game. And that numbers game is not the player numbers, its only the money numbers. Only thing that they care about is the profit. Should the devs / game directors try to make the game actually better (added cost + no direct income numbers like how much more sales we got from this audio patch) they risk losing their jobs. So in my opinion its not so much about their ability or interest to fix things but how the funding is allocated. Ive worked at higher level in big companies like EA (different industry) so I know the mindset.

    For you its just a pastime where you get frustrated about the matchmaking. For devs its livelihood. What a life to be a dev. Get manured on and harassed by internet randos because of free to play game that your boss doesnt give you the funding or approval to do something about it. 

  • HappyHourSumwur's avatar
    HappyHourSumwur
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @Airish85I understand the revenue model and would have no issue buying coins each season if the balance of the devs work was more on things that had value for me. It is more about the core experience for me than the window dressing of cosmetics. Their pricing is basic Economics 101 where they've priced me out of that market. I don't view them as luxury items where higher pricing would drive demand up. Many of them aren't really "micro transactions" anymore and thats an issue.

    I look at live service games as entertainment investments.  If I haven't seen an adequate return over time, I'm less likely to invest moving forward.  

  • saurerDropsXXL's avatar
    saurerDropsXXL
    2 years ago

    Of course EA wants to earn money. It should.

    But the players' point of view/fear should not be forgotten: they don't want to invest money in a game in the hope that there will be enough money left over for the developers (to make long-awaited improvements), only to realize in the end that the "more" money disappears as profit into the pockets of the company bosses or shareholders (and nothing improves in the game).

    Especially in the USA, they say "the market will sort it out". What if the market forces are out of action here? That only leaves the press, but I don't think EA cares about its image either.

    If EA were demonstrably more concerned about the wishes of the players and could not make the improvements due to a lack of money, I would have a suggestion. But I don't want to say it, because an EA employee might read it and incorporate it into the game, and EA would rake in even more money without improving anything.

  • @reconzero
    Well, if you were looking for an arena third-person shooter, I could tell you the one I'm playing as a replacement for Apex...unfortunately I can't help you.
    In fact, I've only become calmer because of this Apex alternative. Not because I invested money in Apex, but because I realized that my problems in Apex didn't necessarily have anything to do with me, but more with the game. In S8, the Apex world was practically perfect for me. I think it was good to ok until S12. It got more difficult until S15 and from then on it became more and more unfair and exhausting.
  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @saurerDropsXXL

    Likewise, I can't claim to be enjoying the game more now than I did eight or ten season ago. But unlike you, I'm not at all certain how much of my discontent is the game and how much of it is my own personal burnout. I keep thinking I should take a season off, but then what would I do with my spare time? Read a book? I'm not even sure I remember how to read at this point. Nope, I just keep playing because I've always played. It's just what I do. And I don't hate it. I often wish things were different, better even, but they're not a total disaster as they are. Not yet.
  • Already started its going to die after 2 weeks when season starts lol

  • HappyHourSumwur's avatar
    HappyHourSumwur
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    So now that the Season 20 hype has started, pubs are filled with toxic, idiotic, selfish, & just plain weird people.  Forgot how much I hate this time of the season.

    I seriously do not understand people who don't no fill but immediately break off from their team just to hot drop & die in seconds.  And yet I see it ALL the damn time.